Jack Smith

Chairman Jordan, my assessment of that particular issue is that

With respect to the testimony about someone, the president, lunging towards the driver, my recollection of her testimony about that is that it was secondhand.

She said she'd heard that from somebody.

Uh, we, uh, conducted, as I said before, our own independent investigation of all aspects of the case that we thought was relevant.

We, uh, attorneys from my office.

Did you ever confirm it?

That's a simple question.

Uh, we interviewed her, I should say attorneys in my office before.

Right.

We interviewed another firsthand witness who was in the car who did not confirm that that happened, but also... In your deposition to the committee last month, Mr. Smith, you said this, my recollection with Ms.

We had not made final determinations as to who we were going to call as a witness.

We had a large... You were still considering her?

We had a large choice of witnesses in this case.

My recollection is that I certainly had not made any final determinations about who we were going to call.

And that's the point.

Sir, when securing a nondisclosure order, the risks don't have to be associated- You think the Speaker of the House is a flight risk?

No, what I was trying to explain is with respect to a nondisclosure order, the risks aren't necessarily associated with the subscriber to the phone.

The risks to the investigation.

My office didn't spy on anyone.

Time has expired, but we're going to let the witness answer your question because it's an important question.