Jack Wagoner

One of your posts that, it was one of the first of your posts I ever saw, I think.

I just started posting on LinkedIn.

And you wrote about how everyone's using AI on LinkedIn.

It was fascinating to me.

I had been using AI to write my LinkedIn posts up to that point, and I haven't since.

Because it really reframed the values that we have and where we're creating content from, what place we're creating that content from.

How do you continue to have this mindset of fun, this mindset of helping other people when you probably have so many opportunities to sell out or to do it for other reasons?

That's a whole nother level.

And the thing about podcasting that's really cool is at least for now, there's no AI, hour-long deep fakes of people having conversations.

I don't see that being a place that's really going to get popular, right?

And so podcasting, you're talking about how the creator economy is going to 13x in the next two years, I think you said?

17x.

Podcasting, it's not as big, but I think it's predicted to 11x in the next 10 years, which is still pretty big.

It's because it's not really an industry that we can replicate, that we can fake with AI.

And I think that genuineness and that creativity that a lot of these conversations come down to is really the human trait that we crave more of.

So a point that I want to touch on a little bit is your internal landscape, right?

I know that you're big into or you used to be very big into the law of attraction and manifestation.

And you had some different points with that in your life.

But I'm wondering how that's influenced this part of your life since you've started your business.

And where is now that a lot of your goals that you originally had are achieved and how that has evolved in your life?