Jackie Oshry

I think he would probably have it like, he's just like, he's just sort of elevated beyond it.

He's sober.

I feel like he's doing really well in his life.

I don't know what purpose the show serves him besides financial.

And he's now in so deep with his bar.

By the way, a serious purpose.

Of course.

So I do think he kind of needs things to keep him in the mix a little bit because he does feel sort of like an outsider now with like these younger cast mates coming in like Wes and Jesse.

And so this is great if she's going to be on Summer House.

She's great on Southern Charm.

I think like I think this is good for both of them.

Like I'm thinking of this in a business sense.

Yeah, but in terms of like a personality sense, I could see why they would click, but I don't know if like it could go the distance.

And also like then again, it's the same Paige and Craig situation.

Who's moving?

Yeah, I think the difference is that like, I don't know, I feel like Vanita would obviously move.

Like Carl is like such a storied, even though she has more of a future on Southern Charm than he does on Summer House.

Yeah, and like, I don't know, she like has her house and her things.

She's like very Charleston, I feel like.

Yeah, and she's like settled.