Jackie Oshry

And like most more often than not, she wouldn't let the loser propose because like it's rude.

So then the guy who gets out of the limo second, that's the guy who like won.

But he doesn't know that guy number one has already been sent home.

He could be guy number one.

And so she like sort of tells him and it's just it's actually chilling.

It's so beautiful.

Meanwhile, they fucking hate each other.

They had like a custody battle over their dog.

It was such a bad breakup.

They did.

The two finalists.

A lot of the tropes about reality TV and like production, people setting you up, editors, is based in reality and rooted from the experiences people had on The Bachelor.

Like production, that was all The Bachelor.

It was so sinister.

I do believe it's much better now.

Jesse Draper was saying on Call Her Daddy, like production, like they're so nice.

Oh no, no, no.

I don't know what goes on there.

I don't watch.

But I mean like a lot of the reputation that people like and the understanding they currently have of reality TV and how you always think like you're going to be set up and like people are going to trick you.