Jackson Irvine

I hadn't played at that time.

The league had stopped in March.

My contract expired in the June.

So by October, it had already been six months since I'd played a professional game.

And I remember watching the international window because Australia, we didn't, Socceroos didn't play for nearly 18 months because of the travel stuff.

But I remember watching the other international games.

I think it might have even been Scotland playing.

I remember watching the game and seeing some teammates of mine from Hull and maybe, you know, or from, you know, from other teams playing in this game.

And I just remember thinking, like, you have a real...

feeling for like my body, for where I was at, for my own, what I was doing.

And I just remember thinking, I don't think I'll ever get back to that level.

Like, you know, just like watching, I don't know, it was really vivid, like watching this game and watching the movements of the players and thinking about my own

body.

And I just thought, I don't know if I'll ever, I just, I can't see that I'll ever get back to that, like from this space.

And it might sound a bit melodramatic, but there was a genuine feeling from a physical and mental perspective where it was like, I don't, I think that level for me, it could be unreachable.

That was probably like the lowest moment during that time.

So my first experience of Sao Paulo actually came when I was at Celtic.

There's a really... Sao Paulo is renowned for being, you know, kind of one of the foremost left-wing political football clubs in the world.

It's kind of been founded off punk culture.

It's always about the anti-fascist movement.