Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
You are listening to episode 268 of the Howie Games Part B featuring Socceroo Jackson at Irvine, courtesy of our mates at Powerade, the official sports drink of FIFA World Cup 2026. Roll it, Tommy. So there's all sorts of things on the internet, Jacko, that you don't know are right or wrong. So I'm just going to ask you this one because I read this. Okay. It was reported...
that when you were at Burton Albion in 1617 in the English Championship, that you were offered a deal with a Chinese club. Now, in theory, you were on about $400,000 a year, and this Chinese club, from what I read, offered you $160,000 a week. Is there any truth to that story?
No.
Yes, that is absolutely true. Yeah. Listen, it's the best worst case scenario you can ever ask for as a young player to be given this kind of decision.
So this is an $8.5 million deal and you're on about 400 grand. So this is ballsy, but there's a reason behind it, obviously. So how does it work? Does some bloke from China just ring up and say, all right, there's eight point or is your auntie still doing the negotiations on this?
What's happening at this point? I definitely wasn't even on 400 grand, by the way. I think I was on about half of that.
Wow.
Yeah, so no, it was, yeah. So basically I had an unbelievable start to life in England. I think at that season I had eight goals. Yeah. And I had eight goals before Christmas from midfield in the championship. This was all kind of building before. Again, I still at this point had never started for the national team. I was kind of in the squad, coming off the bench here and there. Yeah.
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Chapter 2: What was the pivotal moment when Jackson Irvine turned down a lucrative offer?
And it was my first season in England after coming down from Scotland. And yeah, I remember, I'll tell the story, but my agent one day like called me and was like, listen, this is kind of, this is happening. You know, this club's very interested in you. What do you think? And I was basically straight away, I was like, listen, no, I've got big dreams of the Premier League.
And, you know, I wanted to, it was my first step in, You know, I was still at a very small club in the championship and I had big dreams of, you know, going on to have hopefully a big career in Europe. And he said to me, right, so the head of the agency is going to come to see you. And I was like, ooh, like what?
Like these guys do deals with bloody Kyle Walker and, you know, the biggest players in the Premier League and why are you coming to Burton to see me?
Yeah.
And my dad was over at the time because it was around Christmas time in January. And, yeah, it was like a scene out of a film. Like he wrote a number on a piece of paper and went across the table like me, 22, 23 years old. And you pick it up and it's like, what? Like that's not ā like it's just numbers on a thing. It doesn't make sense to me.
Like, I'm like, I don't even understand what that means. And listen, it's, it's funny to reflect on now. I did a lot of, I had some big conversations with my family about it.
And yeah, again, I've never criticized anybody who takes the big money moves to Saudi to China from a, from a personal perspective, people make their own decisions and that's often reflective of the kind of life that you've had. And I'm very fortunate that I grew up comfortable, you know,
you know, middle class, Eastern Melbourne kid, you know, this, my family are fine and everybody, you know, there's this kind of thing was, of course it takes your life and your generations, it's generational money, but it didn't interest me. I had dreams of, as I said, my football and dreams were all I've ever wanted and all I've ever focused on. And yeah, the day I turned it down was,
You know, best night's sleep I've ever had. And two months later, I got my first start for the national team, as we just spoke about, and I scored that goal. And I often think, you know, the midfielders that I was competing with at that time, Aaron Moy, Mike Milligan, Tom Rogic, Maslowongo, I think would have I have even got in that squad if I was playing in China.
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Chapter 3: How did Jackson Irvine cope with the loneliness of lockdown training?
I think it might have even been Scotland playing. I remember watching the game and seeing some teammates of mine from Hull and maybe, you know, or from, you know, from other teams playing in this game. And I just remember thinking, like, you have a real... feeling for like my body, for where I was at, for my own, what I was doing.
And I just remember thinking, I don't think I'll ever get back to that level. Like, you know, just like watching, I don't know, it was really vivid, like watching this game and watching the movements of the players and thinking about my own body. And I just thought, I don't know if I'll ever, I just, I can't see that I'll ever get back to that, like from this space.
And it might sound a bit melodramatic, but there was a genuine feeling from a physical and mental perspective where it was like, I don't, I think that level for me, it could be unreachable. That was probably like the lowest moment during that time.
Via Scotland, you end up From what I can read and listen, you end up at a match made in heaven at a club called St. Pauli. Have I got the pronunciation right? Yes. Where you are now in Hamburg. Good, because I've practiced that numerous times to not say St. Pauli. So before we talk about the connection and the...
the moments that you've been involved as a Melbourne kid on the other side of the world with this football club. Tell me a little bit about the history of the club so the listeners can understand how it all connects into you and where you currently sit now.
So my first experience of Sao Paulo actually came when I was at Celtic. There's a really... Sao Paulo is renowned for being, you know, kind of one of the foremost left-wing political football clubs in the world. It's kind of been founded off punk culture. It's always about the anti-fascist movement. So basically the biggest club in... the city is Hamburger SV, HSV Hamburg. They are monsters.
They've won champions leagues. They've, you know, had Ballon d'Or winners. They are one of the biggest clubs in Europe and we're kind of the noisy neighbor. And during the kind of football hooliganism rise of the 70s and 80s, And a big branch of fans, you know, didn't like where the other club was going and they kind of rebelled.
And as I said, they kind of became the antithesis of that football organism culture and became the anti-fascist football club about that. Right. Forming an inclusive environment that was based on, you know, those values. And that's kind of how the club, the culture of the club was formed. The sporting history of the club has never been grand.
You know, we've had five, six promotions to the Bundesliga in its 115, 116 year history. Never managed to stay more than two, more than the second season, which is the aim of us now. And yeah, for me, that's the connection to Celtic as well, because Celtic are also a very left wing football club. And I came over with Celtic to play in a friendly game here.
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Chapter 4: What does Jackson Irvine share about his experiences at St. Pauli?
I'm an Australian international and I'm absolutely delighted to be a St. Pauly player. I know all about the political and social values that the club holds dear and that aligns perfectly with who I am as a person and how I see football. Yeah, I feel like it's a perfect match.
So you arrive and you're in... So what's the official term for the Bundesliga second division?
Yeah, Bundesliga zwei, Bundesliga two.
Okay. How's your German? How's your German? Good?
Yeah, pretty good. Yeah, pretty good now. Sadly, I don't need to use it so much anymore. I think we've only got about three German players in our squad now. I think we're the most international team. But when I first arrived, it was the total opposite. It was all German for the first couple of years. So it's probably why I got a little bit... So what happens when the coaches talk to you in German?
We speak a little bit in German sometimes, but he does most of his coaching in English now just because we have some players that don't speak English as well, so it can get really complicated.
Well, my German is Scheissen, so we're going to stick to English. I don't know if I've got the dates right, but I reckon you've had a really big week in May 2024. So for those that don't follow football, the bottom teams go down, they get relegated. The top teams go up, they get promoted. So you're in the second division. You're trying to get to the Bundesliga. May 12th, 2024.
You have to fix my pronunciation here, Jacko. You're playing VfL OsnabrĆ¼ck? Yeah. How have I gone there? Pretty good. Pretty good, yeah. Okay. At home at the Millentopf?
Tor, Milan Tor.
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Chapter 5: What is the significance of the Socceroos' journey in the World Cup?
wild experience and then you know we ended up we comfortably won the game i think we were three no up and around the 80th minute the fans started climbing the barrier to like line the pitch to do the thing and you're trying to play this game and there's like ball going out for a throw and there's just like there's like 10 000 people just like on the side standing on the side of the pitch
You knew, everyone knew what was coming and then the final whistle went and anyone who's seen the scenes afterwards, I describe it as like a zombie, like it was like World War Z. Like, you know, like the final whistle went, I had like this half second of like... you know, threw my head back like, yes, we've done it. I've done it. We're there.
And then I look back down and it's just thousands and thousands of people just like sprinting onto the pitch at full speed.
The players disappear in a sea of fans who have been waiting patiently for a good 10, 15 minutes to get their chance to get onto the pitch.
Magnificent scenes here at the Mill and Top. And it just like crashed into us into the middle and then it got like claustrophobic and it was a hot day and we were just swarmed by people and actually my neighbour like fought his way to me in the middle of the thing and like put me up on his shoulders and it was like bloody Jon Snow in Game of Thrones like coming out of the pack.
But yeah, just absolute, one of the wildest, wildest experiences of my life. And then the rest of the day, just party in the stadium, on the streets with the fans. Yeah, whole city came to a standstill for us. You know, it was incredible.
I watched... I watched you guys in the rooms, and I should have written it down. I can't remember. There was a song you were singing, and it was ā Probably ABBA, was it? Yeah, I think it was ABBA. I think it was ABBA.
Yeah, yeah. I think it was ABBA. Give me, give me, give me. I'm going to hang up. Give me, give me, give me. I'm going to hang up. Give me, give me, give me. I'm going to hang up.
But also there's a clip, a 15-second clip on Facebook of the St. Pauli fans somewhere in Hamburg. I don't know if it's a parade. And you might have to try and sing it to me. I don't know if it's the club. They just keep singing St. Pauli and it's just this heaving mass of people. It's like a conga line times 10,000. That's when it struck me what it means to the people where you are.
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Chapter 6: How did Jackson Irvine feel during the penalty shootout against Peru?
Zach Powley, our Bundesliga 2 champions for the first time in their history. Now, this is where I probably got it wrong. Did you get married in that week?
I did.
I did. So did you get married between promotion and winning the league?
Yes. It was a... Oh, man, you had a week and a half. It was six, seven days of the wildest... So, well, it was actually two weddings in the end because our first wedding didn't happen. So we're getting married in Denmark. So basically we win the league. We get promoted on the Saturday. It was already planned that we were going to get married on the Tuesday in Denmark.
of course, after the championship, after the, sorry, the promotion, we're partying for two, three days straight. Everybody, you know, in the city, it's, you know, it's the biggest thing ever. It's unbelievable. And we're like, right. So it's now it's wedding, it's wedding day. We're on our way up to Denmark and we get there and we realize we didn't bring our passports. Oh no, you're kidding.
Both of us, by the way, not just me, not just me, also my wife. So we got there and, oh, right, wedding's off. And it was actually so funny. So we planned to go. We were going there to get married and then we were having the party in Hamburg later that night. We were driving back down. It's only about three hours away.
We got back down to Hamburg and all of our mates and friends and people were all there and they're having this big party and we had to come back and be like, we actually didn't get married. But the people in the office are actually so amazing. They knew how badly we know we'd stuffed up. So they said to us, like, just come back again tomorrow. And the office was supposed to be closed.
But one woman, her name was Karen, legend, always shout out Karen. She came back the next day and opened the office for us and did the wedding. But we came back, had the party. and then had to go back again the next day to Denmark in like our grubby clothes that we'd been partying, having the wedding party in the night before, go and actually get married and then come back again.
It was just an absolute, yeah, the whole week was just hilarious and wild and funny and probably very on brand for us.
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Chapter 7: What emotions did Jackson experience after the loss to Argentina?
I'm going to have to ask you a bizarre favour. Yep. So you've got a radio show, yeah? I do.
In Hamburg. I do.
Now, firstly, did your mum work for 3AW? She did, yeah. Well, well, well, well researched here at the Howie Games. Yeah. MJ, who produces this, his father was a long-time employee, Darren James, of 3AW. So he told me he thought that was the case. So before I get to the favour, what's your radio show called? Heimspiel. Heimspiel? Mm-hmm. What does that mean? It literally means like home game.
Okay. Like, yeah. So I wanted to get a flavour of what your radio show is about, whether we hear much from you or whether you're just spinning discs for want of an old-fashioned term. But, Jacko, whether you're aware or not, if I don't listen to it live, it's behind a paywall. So I need to give you some type of pass or code or something so I can get in there and listen to your work.
Can you help me out with that for a start?
Yeah, I'll give you a login, mate. Then you can do some playback. G'day, moin. Welcome to Homespiel. This is Alien Love Call.
Are you just playing music or are you having a chat through it or like what's it all about?
Yeah, it's completely music-based. Okay. It's a total switch away from football for me. I have total free reign with my program. They give me ā I have an hour and I can talk as much as I want, play what I want. you know, it's, it's, it's absolutely my space to do with what I, with what I like. And I tend to, I tend to just use it as a, as a time to, yeah, I try, there's not even a theme.
Like it's hard to say. I just, I, sometimes I'll just play music that I'm listening to at the, of the moment. Sometimes it's more relative to like gigs that I've been to or things that I want to see or, And yeah, it's great. It's just a chance to explore music in whichever way I choose to and with no footballing connection to it really whatsoever.
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Chapter 8: What advice does Jackson Irvine have for young athletes?
Back to Jacko in a tick now. If you could all do me a favour, if you haven't already, and check out the two episodes currently in your Howie Games feed of the Safari Diaries. The Safari Diaries is a very different type of pod from us. For those who love adventure, me. For those who love travel, me. And for those that love their family, me.
Hopefully you are a tick to all these things and you tune in. The Howie Games Safari Diaries. It's different. It's travel. It's off the beaten track. It's behind the scenes. It's quite the ride. The Howie Games is hitting the road. We are going to Africa, a two-part podcast series, The Howie Games Safari Diaries.
My brain was saying no, but everything else was saying yes.
We explain to you with the family the things you simply must do in Southern Africa, the things you should avoid, the pitfalls. And, you know, they know that the Australian, they taste it. They go for them. and the absolute highlights. Join us on this podcast journey. Morning, mate. How are you? Always good, and you? Yeah, good. Where are you off to today? Okanjima. Okanjima.
Yeah, he's going to see the leopards. Oh, Mackie, we're so close to the giraffe. I can hear him eating. Oh, my goodness. Have a look at that lion. He's going to go in front of us. We're standing out in the middle of the Namibian desert and the sun is just coming up over the dunes. And that roaring you can hear is the hot air filling the balloon. How are you feeling about this?
Good. I'm pretty excited. A bit of a random moment. I didn't know I was going to be skydiving this morning. Yeah, pretty excited.
The Howie Games Safari Diaries is in your feed right now. So that's a line 25 metres away. And that call just sends shivers down your spine. Don't be missing it. That's so cool. Let's get back to Jackson. Socceroos. Socceroos. And it's a privilege you're here thanks to Powerade and they're all about powering your game and your fate and hard work and discipline, which you're a prime example of.
I won't talk to you about your first World Cup in Russia because we're not going to have time. And you came on, you played all three games, you came on as substitutes three times. But the 2022 World Cup... Firstly, talk to me about the penalties against Peru.
Check of the watch from Slavko Vincic. And that will do. They cannot be separated after 120 minutes. We are still no nearer to knowing who will be back in Qatar in November. Australia nil, Peru nil after extra time. And that penultimate ticket will be decided from 11 metres on penalty kicks.
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