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Jacob Kimmel

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

And so it puts you in this regime where transcription factors are a really nice substrate to manipulate as targets for medicines.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

In some ways, they might be like evolution's levers upon the broader architecture of the genome.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

And so by pulling on those same levers that evolution has gifted us, there are probably many useful things we can engender upon biology.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

I don't know about that, but if I can give you, I'll give you like a real cringe analogy that sometimes I deploy, but it requires a very special audience.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

I think you'll probably be the one who fits into it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

I don't know about your audience, but you will.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

You can kind of think about it like, you know, if you think about how attention works, like queries, keys, values, TFs are kind of like the queries, the genome sequences they bind to, kind of like the keys.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

Genes are kind of like the values.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

And it turns out that structure then allows you to very efficiently in terms of

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

editing space.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

You can change just one of those embedding vectors, in this case, one of those sequences, and get dramatically different performances or total outputs.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

And so I do think it's kind of interesting how these structures recur throughout biology, you know, in the same way that the attention mechanism seems to exist in some neural structures.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

I think it's kind of interesting that you can very easily see how that same sort of querying and information storage might exist in the genome.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

Yeah, or Eddie Chang has found like positional encodings probably exist in humans using Neuropixels.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

If you haven't read these papers.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

Oh, yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

So he implants these Neuropixel probes into individuals, and then he's able to talk to them, look at them as they read sentences.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

And what he finds is that there seem to be certain representations which function as a positional encoding across sentences.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

So they fire at a certain frequency, and it just increases as the sentence goes on and then like resets.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that โ€” Jacob Kimmel

And so it seems exactly like what we do when we train large language models where you've got some function.