Jacob Pinter

So where is Perseverance at in all of that?

I love when geologists just get excited about rocks.

So she's in her home turf.

This is when the discoveries start flowing, right?

You know, NASA scientists are not prone to hyperbole.

So when Katie says these rocks are exciting, she must really mean it.

Okay, so I can feel we're taking baby steps to the big question.

We're taking baby steps.

Was there life on Mars, Christian?

So what I'm hearing is they're sort of trying to systematically rule out every cause that isn't life.

Like these aren't a dead ringer biosignature, but they are potentially a biosignature.

Well, Christian, there's always more rocks to find.

So what's next for Perseverance?

So there was one more question that Christian, I know you and I both had before we started working on this episode.

You know, I've seen people not in NASA, but in the public called Perseverance Percy.

Sometimes people call Ingenuity Ginny.

I mean, people love these robots and have anthropomorphized them for years.

You know, they pretend they're humans or cartoon characters or something with like feelings and things like that.

I just wonder how the science team feels about all that and the way people react.

Well, Christian, you have brought perseverance and ingenuity to putting together this episode.