Jacoby Shaddix

you know what it was?

It was what got us through those moments that were tough was the brotherhood, you know, and like working through those moments, being poor together and barely scraping enough money together to get enough gas to the next city.

And those, I think those moments, like you guys have lived through yourselves, right?

Where it's like, it just builds character, you know?

And it's like, that's the stuff.

Exactly.

Very humbling.

Yeah.

But then it also, it's like, I found so much joy.

Like, as I look back at those moments, there was like so much joy and so much fun in the discovery of like traveling to a new town, meeting new people.

You know, we had a mailing list.

Oh, we got 25 names on the mailing list tonight, you know?

And like, oh, we sold 30 t-shirts and we got, you know, we got 300 bucks in the band fund, dude.

We're balling, dude.

You know, it's like, we can go to IHOP tonight.

You know, like I just I look back so fondly in those moments and so grateful that we had those moments because

when the times got tough after, you know, we had our success and we kind of had an arc and it felt like the industry was, we were done and over with, like, those were the moments that got us through the dark times in our career after like big popularity, you know, we'd, we'd pick each other up and dust each other off and go like, all right, man, we got this.

Like, we just keep thugging it out.

Let's just keep pushing forward.

And, and so it built that brotherhood strong.