Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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What's up? What's up? What's good?
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Chapter 2: How did addiction impact Jacoby's career and personal life?
And I like, threw the cake on the floor, you know, like just like, Oh yeah, I was, I was, I was, you know, I look back on it and I'm kind of like, okay, like it's not so bad, but then I just was that, that abandonment. Right. And I think that I, I didn't fully recover from that until I was probably in my mid twenties. I think when I finally sought him out, um,
And, uh, you know, had a deep conversation with him about who he was and why he left and really never turned back. And it's, you know, it's so wild. Like once I got to know him a little bit, it was, you know, I spent a couple of days with him and we got deep. I just remember sitting on this hilltop and he was telling me the story of his life. And I just, I just felt sorry for him.
You know, I just, when I, when I found out like what he had been through and who he was and I just asked him straight up, I'm like, what the fuck? Like, why did you like never try to like search me out? And he's like, I thought, I just thought that you would, you just hated me. I thought you were, you would just reject me. And I'm like, Oh, quite the opposite.
Like, I just wanted to like, know who you were, you know? And that was like, I was a, I was a, that was a tough, but healing moment, you know? And, and in the process of being a young kid and having this stepdad that, that loved me, I never really like allowed that love to, I never knew how to accept that love. I knew he did.
You didn't want to get hurt again.
Yeah. And yeah, I think that's what it was. And my mom is just the salt of the earth, an amazing, loving, compassionate woman that just taught me so much about life. And she taught me empathy. She taught me kindness. She supported my creativity. And so- I think my mom, you know, as she remarried, she wanted to provide like a stable environment for me to grow up in.
And my stepdad now, it's like, he's my guy. Like Bill Roach is the man.
Bill, my dad's name is Bill.
Okay, cool.
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Chapter 3: How did the song 'Scars' change the trajectory of Papa Roach?
And then I remember I got my wisdom teeth pulled and they gave me a bottle of Vicodin. That's when I discovered Vicodin.
Me too. It's in my book that I'm about to drop. I call it getting percolated.
I was twerklated.
I did not take as prescribed at all. But the first time you take that pill and it gives you that relief that you've never had before, that's what gets you hooked. And, but then you'd never get that feeling again. It's you get it one time it's euphoric and then you have, you chase that high for the rest of your, it's a bottomless pit addiction. It is.
I mean, yeah. But, you know, I had to touch that flame. That was like the thing. And all around this time, you know, I'm in high school, right? So.
When does music enter? Have you always been musical? Where does the musical chops come from?
So music is in the family. My grandmother was a singer. Her father was in the big bands like in the 1930s and stuff like that. So he was in the pit orchestra for the Marx Brothers and they did a lot of traveling and he played piano and clarinet, saxophone, you name it. Um, and did that life. And then my grandma sang and like the chorus lines and stuff like that.
My mom wasn't really musically inclined, but had a love for music. And I just grew up loving music. Like it was just, I fell in love with, I remember poison was like one of the first bands.
These guys are sick. Nothing but a good time. I love all the hair bands. I still love dudes and makeup. Like it is my, I love it.
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Chapter 4: What role did faith play in Jacoby's recovery journey?
And, uh, yeah. Shout out to Brett Michaels, dude. You're an awesome dude. You're the real deal. Um, But yeah, I discovered music and just I was the kid with the wiffle ball bat in the front yard playing air guitar and setting up the trash cans upside down in the garage, you know, playing with fire, beating on drums, putting on my own pyro in the garage, like, you know, just like a goofball.
And I just had this love for music. And then when I finally got in high school and met my OG drummer, Dave Buckner, we were playing football in high school together. And I was a drummer. He was a drummer. And we were like, dude, let's hook up and like put our drum sets together to make like a real big drum set.
So you do play drums?
Yes. That was my first rock instrument. I grew up playing clarinet. I played in the, I'm like a band geek.
Yeah.
And so I played in the school band. Sorry?
I played the viola. I was in band. Or no, I was in orchestra. I wasn't cool enough to be in. Shout out to the band geeks. I wasn't allowed to be in band. I was in orchestra though.
That's cool though. That's cool. That's what's up. Um, so yeah, I went to band camp, did that whole day, did that whole deal. That was awesome. The band kids were wild. Honestly, like we were wild. And, uh, I did some partying with the school band as well. I band camp straight up.
Was it like American Pie?
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Chapter 5: What childhood experiences shaped Jacoby Shaddix's life?
I was cleaning toilets, right? And so like, that type of love, like, that's a hard one to break, you know? And like, we like to joke, you know, we're about to be 30 years married coming up.
Three decades. Yeah. That's wild.
Is it 29 or 30 coming up? I think it's 99. No, it's, it'll be 29. Uh, next year it'll be 30. Um, and so we're coming up. Yeah, no 29 and coming up. We're 28 right now. And, uh,
we like to joke you know that the only reason we're still married is because we never wanted to get a divorce at the same time that's awesome though and it's like there's been moments where you know i was i was in full flight from reality and i didn't want to be in this relationship and then there was moments where she didn't want to be in this relationship you know i was
There was a moment where I was, you know, kicked out the house and we were, we were on the outs and I'm living at my brother, you know, I got this big old, you know, mansion of a house and I'm living at my brother's in this little 10 by 10 bedroom out of the trunk of my, you know, challenger car. my clothes are in there and I'm just kind of vagabond living and like trying to get my life right.
And you know, we've been through those, those moments, you know, we've been through the therapy, we've been through the marriage counseling, you know, countless attempts of sobriety, you know, and, and she's just loved me through the most broken, like my most broken moments in my life. And,
Uh, I am like, I am blessed, you know, beyond blessed to have a woman like that, that like loves, has loved me through my crazy. And, uh, she loves your soul. Yeah. She, she see, you know, she sees something in me that I didn't see in myself a lot of the time. And, uh, it's, she's been patient with me.
And, uh, she's, she's allowed me to make, make some serious mistakes and forgiven me for those mistakes. And, you know, I mean, Hey, it ain't perfect. It takes two to tango, you know? And it's like, you know, we've, we've had our, our battles, you know, I mean, knock down drag outs, you know, throwing the dishes at each other, you know, war of the roses type shit. Yeah.
And it's a, it isn't all pretty, but I will say that, you know, back in the day, I got some advice from my bass player's grandfather. And he said, you know, some marriage advice. He was like, You know, a strong marriage isn't always going to be pretty. It's not always going to be loving.
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