Jacoby Shaddix

And it's like, you know, we've, we've had our, our battles, you know, I mean, knock down drag outs, you know, throwing the dishes at each other, you know, war of the roses type shit.

Yeah.

And it's a, it isn't all pretty, but I will say that, you know, back in the day, I got some advice from my bass player's grandfather.

And he said, you know, some marriage advice.

He was like,

You know, a strong marriage isn't always going to be pretty.

It's not always going to be loving.

But it's the glue that you take the broken pieces and it's the glue that you put these pieces back together with that's going to be the strength that makes a loving marriage endure.

You know, and I just...

And I had to experience that.

I had to like take the vase and just throw it at the fucking wall and destroy it and go, oh God.

And we both picked up the pieces and put them back together together.

You know what I mean?

And that is, you know, now it's like, it's funny because we're like having conversations in our lives now about like, all right, like what do you want to be called when you're a grandma?

Like what do you want to be called when you're a grandpa?

You know, and it's like, because my kids are getting older now.

My oldest son, he's like 24.

Jagger's 21.

And then Brixton, my youngest, is 12.

You know, and so, I mean, my kids are shooting live ones.