Jacoby Shaddix

But then also the type that needs to like run a hundred miles an hour into a brick wall and feel the pain and like the struggle and the strife and the-

you know, take his lumps and, you know, he's very bullheaded.

And it's almost like he's kind of gotten some of the, some of the traits about me and my wife that were both like, damn, dude, you got some of the, like the, the harder edges of who we are.

But yeah,

he's just got the biggest heart, you know?

And so Jagger, he's a, and how old is he?

Jagger's 21.

You know, and he's that kid that, you know, he, he tells me, he's like, dad, like you're my safe place.

Like you're, you're my, you're my place where I can just let all my walls fall.

And, uh, that means so much for a child, just be vulnerable, you know?

And, and, uh, you know, I'm just grateful that, you know, both me and my wife, we have these very special

unique relationships with all of our kids, you know?

And, and so Jagger, you know, I think that the, the thing that he's taught me is like, again, like I keep saying patience, you know, but it's like, I just got to allow him to be him and not try to impose the,

the knowledge that I've, I've tried to raise them the best I can and love them the best we can and teach them as many valuable lessons as we can, but also like to allow him to be him and find his way, you know?

And, and, uh, I think that, you know, he wants to go, he wants to go into the music.

He grew up listening to, you know, Yellow Wolf was like one of his favorite rappers.

Oh yeah, Yellow's cool, man.

He's a real one.

I got a slum tat with Yellow one night in a hotel room.

Yeah, that was a wild night.