Jad Abumrad

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6,321 appearances 21 recordings 5 series first heard May 2025 last heard 11 Sep

Jad Abumrad’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Now, whatever this road led to, Garrett didn't know what it was.
It did not exist on the map that I was looking at.
But he had a pretty good hunch that whatever it was, was inside the mountain itself.
You know, I had covered national security in Washington for years and interviewed people who had been whisked to bunkers on 9-11, for instance.
Okay.
And so I assumed it was an evacuation facility that people would enter in the event of a surprise nuclear attack.
And I was like, you know, wow, like this whole world, you know, exists out here and we just have no idea.
And Garrett just thought, I've got to know more about this.
Exactly.
And so that launched me on this quest to understand the history of the U.S.
government's doomsday planning.
And eventually this quest would lead him, and consequently us, to a pretty existential question about America.
In fact, what he came across was a sort of cataclysm sentence for the United States.
And it emerged in a moment when the nation was gripped fiercely by this sense that the end was near.
I mean, even more fiercely than the moment we're living through right now.
1950s Cold War America.
One of the things that's hard for us to remember now, because we're looking at history as sort of where the Cold War ended, which is tens of thousands of nuclear warheads that could bring global annihilation in 17 minutes.
was that for much of the 1950s, there was a real belief that the US might actually be hit by 50 or 60 atomic bombs.
Which would essentially be like 50 or 60 Hiroshima's happening around the country.
Yes.
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