Jake Humphrey

Because often things will go wrong and, you know, it doesn't feel like the world is breaking when it does because they've prepared for them.

And I guess that then allows something powerful to happen, which is, hold on, I'm composed and I'm adapting and I'm not wasting energy in a really difficult situation.

So this is how I operate in a hard situation.

How am I going to be if everything works out?

Can I call up a clip now of a guy who... Damien, I'm really keen to get Tom Aspinall back on High Performance.

Oh, mate, have you not got Tom's number?

No, no, just his dad.

Or his address.

You could write him a letter like you did Roy Keane and get no reply, which I love to mention on every possible episode.

Why not?

Okay, so let's hear them from Tom Aspinall.

If you don't know Tom's story, one of the most eloquent, thoughtful, remarkable fighters in UFC.

He actually fought recently.

He got a really bad injury.

I mean, I don't think this has been said publicly, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's been thoughts or questions about whether he can continue because the injury looked so severe and he's had operations since then.

But we spoke to him about fear.

And his advice to us was, well, don't deny the fear.

This is Tom Aspinall, UFC heavyweight champion, doing the complete opposite of fearing the fear.

So, David, it's so much research that comes in here when we talk about people kind of pushing fear under the carpet and acting like it isn't real.

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