Jameela Jamil

I don't think they've been encouraged to enjoy their lives, enjoy their friendships, indulge in pleasure.

very much.

It's all just like a quick wank on Pornhub, a quick outlet like that.

It's a quick burst of release everywhere.

But men aren't encouraged to have any softness whatsoever and to really make memories of their own.

They're not encouraged to really spend that much time with their kids.

that you know this idea that it's changing it is changing it's changing what it was changing and now we're swinging back to a culture where we don't want women to work and we want women back in the home and and what happens when we do that is that then the woman spends all the time with the kids and the woman grows the bond with the kids and you're the fucking guy that checks in and checks out like you're off before they wake up for school and you're they're in bed by the time you get home this is not going to work out for men the direction in which we're going um and so i do think that

I personally think, you know, just to be fully... It's all capitalism based.

I think that you... I think we are a culture that deliberately pushes isolation because isolation makes you more likely to be depressed and being more depressed makes you more likely to consume.

I don't know about you, but I've never...

done online shopping when i feel really good and really content and really satisfied i online shop when there's some part of me that feels dissatisfied and uncomfortable or not good enough or lonely and i need a little hit of dopamine i am i i don't buy anything from i can tell my my bank account tells me how happy i am my uber eats account tells me how happy i am

We're not a culture directed towards happiness.

We're a culture directed towards consumption.

And we then have this really unnatural, separated, dystopian society that then we're given pills for and everything's pathologized.

But people who feel anxious and depressed in a world in which we are so isolated from each other, in which loneliness is now an epidemic, was an epidemic before the pandemic.

Right.

I think the numbers were something like 70% of people within huge bursting populations felt desperately lonely.

This was in the Surgeon General of the United States' book, Dr. Vivek Murthy.

And so he was reporting this before the now beyond ridiculous shift in the way that we socialize with one another.

I really think it's all down towards... I genuinely do.