Jameela Jamil

I think that you... I think we are a culture that deliberately pushes isolation because isolation makes you more likely to be depressed and being more depressed makes you more likely to consume.

I don't know about you, but I've never...

done online shopping when i feel really good and really content and really satisfied i online shop when there's some part of me that feels dissatisfied and uncomfortable or not good enough or lonely and i need a little hit of dopamine i am i i don't buy anything from i can tell my my bank account tells me how happy i am my uber eats account tells me how happy i am

We're not a culture directed towards happiness.

We're a culture directed towards consumption.

And we then have this really unnatural, separated, dystopian society that then we're given pills for and everything's pathologized.

But people who feel anxious and depressed in a world in which we are so isolated from each other, in which loneliness is now an epidemic, was an epidemic before the pandemic.

Right.

I think the numbers were something like 70% of people within huge bursting populations felt desperately lonely.

This was in the Surgeon General of the United States' book, Dr. Vivek Murthy.

And so he was reporting this before the now beyond ridiculous shift in the way that we socialize with one another.

I really think it's all down towards... I genuinely do.

I think it's towards...

making us as unhappy as possible, so we'll buy as much as possible.

And I know that that's a really big swing to take, but I don't really give a shit because I think I'm right.

We did have lots of warnings, though.

We were warned like two or three years ago that 100 million jobs would go within five years.

And then we kept on using it to write our work emails and be our therapists.

And now, of course, we've seen all the underwhelming... We just ruin everything good, don't we?

Isn't it extraordinary the human capacity to just destroy everything?