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James Catledge

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
624 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
The Unseen Strength in Setbacks with James Catledge

Well, here's what I do. I let Chris know, you either cut me loose. Or I leave one way, you know, I'm leaving anyway. And he says, I just can't do it. So I did the hard thing. I went and found a office to lease. I take the receptionist who's at Chris's office with me, Elizabeth. She's my receptionist. She's been processing my apps, doing my paperwork. So if I leave, she leaves. My six guys leave.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
The Unseen Strength in Setbacks with James Catledge

Well, here's what I do. I let Chris know, you either cut me loose. Or I leave one way, you know, I'm leaving anyway. And he says, I just can't do it. So I did the hard thing. I went and found a office to lease. I take the receptionist who's at Chris's office with me, Elizabeth. She's my receptionist. She's been processing my apps, doing my paperwork. So if I leave, she leaves. My six guys leave.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
The Unseen Strength in Setbacks with James Catledge

Well, here's what I do. I let Chris know, you either cut me loose. Or I leave one way, you know, I'm leaving anyway. And he says, I just can't do it. So I did the hard thing. I went and found a office to lease. I take the receptionist who's at Chris's office with me, Elizabeth. She's my receptionist. She's been processing my apps, doing my paperwork. So if I leave, she leaves. My six guys leave.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
The Unseen Strength in Setbacks with James Catledge

I tell my wife we need desks in this empty cavernous space that I've rented. Need one for Elizabeth, I need one for me and the six guys. So we buy Office Depot desks that you have to assemble. My wife spends a weekend assembling desks with an Allen wrench. Those desks get all set up. We're now running an agency. I don't have a contract yet. I have a logo. I have a brand.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
The Unseen Strength in Setbacks with James Catledge

I tell my wife we need desks in this empty cavernous space that I've rented. Need one for Elizabeth, I need one for me and the six guys. So we buy Office Depot desks that you have to assemble. My wife spends a weekend assembling desks with an Allen wrench. Those desks get all set up. We're now running an agency. I don't have a contract yet. I have a logo. I have a brand.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
The Unseen Strength in Setbacks with James Catledge

I tell my wife we need desks in this empty cavernous space that I've rented. Need one for Elizabeth, I need one for me and the six guys. So we buy Office Depot desks that you have to assemble. My wife spends a weekend assembling desks with an Allen wrench. Those desks get all set up. We're now running an agency. I don't have a contract yet. I have a logo. I have a brand.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
The Unseen Strength in Setbacks with James Catledge

I do not have a contract yet. So a guy that I really admired who worked for Chris and it left maybe a year prior. Went out on his own. I go have lunch with him. His name's Scott. You may know this guy. Scott Childress is his last name. Name's familiar. Scott Childress was a baseball player for the California Angels. Rebels, California Angels, and then he's at Zockel's agency, and he's very good.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
The Unseen Strength in Setbacks with James Catledge

I do not have a contract yet. So a guy that I really admired who worked for Chris and it left maybe a year prior. Went out on his own. I go have lunch with him. His name's Scott. You may know this guy. Scott Childress is his last name. Name's familiar. Scott Childress was a baseball player for the California Angels. Rebels, California Angels, and then he's at Zockel's agency, and he's very good.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
The Unseen Strength in Setbacks with James Catledge

I do not have a contract yet. So a guy that I really admired who worked for Chris and it left maybe a year prior. Went out on his own. I go have lunch with him. His name's Scott. You may know this guy. Scott Childress is his last name. Name's familiar. Scott Childress was a baseball player for the California Angels. Rebels, California Angels, and then he's at Zockel's agency, and he's very good.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
The Unseen Strength in Setbacks with James Catledge

Very good. So I said to Chris, I need a contract. Who are you using? He says, oh, I've got your contract. I know what you need to do. I said, tell me. Tell me what you're doing. And, and I'm at this point, I don't just follow people around at this point in my life. I've seen enough been without enough. I keep my own company. That makes sense. I take data very rarely and moved.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
The Unseen Strength in Setbacks with James Catledge

Very good. So I said to Chris, I need a contract. Who are you using? He says, oh, I've got your contract. I know what you need to do. I said, tell me. Tell me what you're doing. And, and I'm at this point, I don't just follow people around at this point in my life. I've seen enough been without enough. I keep my own company. That makes sense. I take data very rarely and moved.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
The Unseen Strength in Setbacks with James Catledge

Very good. So I said to Chris, I need a contract. Who are you using? He says, oh, I've got your contract. I know what you need to do. I said, tell me. Tell me what you're doing. And, and I'm at this point, I don't just follow people around at this point in my life. I've seen enough been without enough. I keep my own company. That makes sense. I take data very rarely and moved.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
The Unseen Strength in Setbacks with James Catledge

If I, if I'm, if I'm headed in a direction, it's hard to move me. So I'm basically investigating Scott's idea, but I do need a contract. And so he says, listen, I'm with a company out of Atlanta, Georgia called the World Marketing Alliance. I said, never heard of them, but it sounds real cheesy. That's what I said. World Marketing Alliance. I said, it sounds like Amway. What are you talking about?

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
The Unseen Strength in Setbacks with James Catledge

If I, if I'm, if I'm headed in a direction, it's hard to move me. So I'm basically investigating Scott's idea, but I do need a contract. And so he says, listen, I'm with a company out of Atlanta, Georgia called the World Marketing Alliance. I said, never heard of them, but it sounds real cheesy. That's what I said. World Marketing Alliance. I said, it sounds like Amway. What are you talking about?

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
The Unseen Strength in Setbacks with James Catledge

If I, if I'm, if I'm headed in a direction, it's hard to move me. So I'm basically investigating Scott's idea, but I do need a contract. And so he says, listen, I'm with a company out of Atlanta, Georgia called the World Marketing Alliance. I said, never heard of them, but it sounds real cheesy. That's what I said. World Marketing Alliance. I said, it sounds like Amway. What are you talking about?

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
The Unseen Strength in Setbacks with James Catledge

And nothing's more disgusting to me in my mind at this age than some type of MLM stuff, okay? I'm a licensed guy. I'm professional in my head. Dry cleaning.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
The Unseen Strength in Setbacks with James Catledge

And nothing's more disgusting to me in my mind at this age than some type of MLM stuff, okay? I'm a licensed guy. I'm professional in my head. Dry cleaning.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
The Unseen Strength in Setbacks with James Catledge

And nothing's more disgusting to me in my mind at this age than some type of MLM stuff, okay? I'm a licensed guy. I'm professional in my head. Dry cleaning.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
The Unseen Strength in Setbacks with James Catledge

It's all over the place. And I'm disgusted by the idea of it. And this is just my little arrogant way of thinking, okay? It's not right. It's just the way I'm thinking. Okay. So he says, World Market Alliance, you'll have your own contract with all the carriers. We've got lots of technology, lots of tools, lots of software. And I'm thinking, okay, that sounds great. It's a split. Yeah.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
The Unseen Strength in Setbacks with James Catledge

It's all over the place. And I'm disgusted by the idea of it. And this is just my little arrogant way of thinking, okay? It's not right. It's just the way I'm thinking. Okay. So he says, World Market Alliance, you'll have your own contract with all the carriers. We've got lots of technology, lots of tools, lots of software. And I'm thinking, okay, that sounds great. It's a split. Yeah.