James Catledge

It's hard. Yeah, it's hard. And I can't say as I sit here that we did as good as we could. You know, I think looking back, there's some things we could have done even better. But I will say, and maybe it's through the tough experience that we lived through together, they are more resilient today because they went through it. It's one thing to live in the $8 million house.

It's hard. Yeah, it's hard. And I can't say as I sit here that we did as good as we could. You know, I think looking back, there's some things we could have done even better. But I will say, and maybe it's through the tough experience that we lived through together, they are more resilient today because they went through it. It's one thing to live in the $8 million house.

It's hard. Yeah, it's hard. And I can't say as I sit here that we did as good as we could. You know, I think looking back, there's some things we could have done even better. But I will say, and maybe it's through the tough experience that we lived through together, they are more resilient today because they went through it. It's one thing to live in the $8 million house.

and then moved to the $10 million house, and then moved to the $12 million house. It's a whole nother thing to go from the $8 million house to the $500,000 house. To the apartment.

and then moved to the $10 million house, and then moved to the $12 million house. It's a whole nother thing to go from the $8 million house to the $500,000 house. To the apartment.

and then moved to the $10 million house, and then moved to the $12 million house. It's a whole nother thing to go from the $8 million house to the $500,000 house. To the apartment.

That's a whole nother adjustment. And we did it slower than I just said it. We did it slower, but we end up there. Yeah. And my kids had to make that adjustment. I'll just tell you a quick anecdotal story to that point. Six kids, right? The youngest boy is Nathan, okay? Nathan today is in college. He's in his sophomore year, wrapping it up at Brigham Young University.

That's a whole nother adjustment. And we did it slower than I just said it. We did it slower, but we end up there. Yeah. And my kids had to make that adjustment. I'll just tell you a quick anecdotal story to that point. Six kids, right? The youngest boy is Nathan, okay? Nathan today is in college. He's in his sophomore year, wrapping it up at Brigham Young University.

That's a whole nother adjustment. And we did it slower than I just said it. We did it slower, but we end up there. Yeah. And my kids had to make that adjustment. I'll just tell you a quick anecdotal story to that point. Six kids, right? The youngest boy is Nathan, okay? Nathan today is in college. He's in his sophomore year, wrapping it up at Brigham Young University.

Nathan lived through the heart of the difficulty. My litigation with the United States government lasted from 2008 to 2018, so a decade of the children's life, which is most of it. Yeah. They only know dad under pressure, right?

Nathan lived through the heart of the difficulty. My litigation with the United States government lasted from 2008 to 2018, so a decade of the children's life, which is most of it. Yeah. They only know dad under pressure, right?

Nathan lived through the heart of the difficulty. My litigation with the United States government lasted from 2008 to 2018, so a decade of the children's life, which is most of it. Yeah. They only know dad under pressure, right?

Whatever pressure one processes when the United States of America is prosecuting you, whatever that pressure looks like and however you handle it, the kids are observing that. And somehow this 18-year-old boy in the middle of all this becomes captain of his football team. Homecoming king, 4,000 students in the high school, homecoming king. There's not 19 of these homecoming kings, okay?

Whatever pressure one processes when the United States of America is prosecuting you, whatever that pressure looks like and however you handle it, the kids are observing that. And somehow this 18-year-old boy in the middle of all this becomes captain of his football team. Homecoming king, 4,000 students in the high school, homecoming king. There's not 19 of these homecoming kings, okay?

Whatever pressure one processes when the United States of America is prosecuting you, whatever that pressure looks like and however you handle it, the kids are observing that. And somehow this 18-year-old boy in the middle of all this becomes captain of his football team. Homecoming king, 4,000 students in the high school, homecoming king. There's not 19 of these homecoming kings, okay?

There's one homecoming king. He is the most kind, gentle, Young man, when I was inside, and maybe some other time we'll get into how I get inside, but I'm inside a federal prison. Oh, we're gonna get to it. Okay, we're gonna get to it. Well, while I'm inside, this is the boy who arranged the kids to come visit. This is the boy who made sure everybody was in the car.

There's one homecoming king. He is the most kind, gentle, Young man, when I was inside, and maybe some other time we'll get into how I get inside, but I'm inside a federal prison. Oh, we're gonna get to it. Okay, we're gonna get to it. Well, while I'm inside, this is the boy who arranged the kids to come visit. This is the boy who made sure everybody was in the car.

There's one homecoming king. He is the most kind, gentle, Young man, when I was inside, and maybe some other time we'll get into how I get inside, but I'm inside a federal prison. Oh, we're gonna get to it. Okay, we're gonna get to it. Well, while I'm inside, this is the boy who arranged the kids to come visit. This is the boy who made sure everybody was in the car.

This is the kid who watched his dad not only go through it, but maintain communication, clarity, love, support, and made sure everybody in the family knew how good dad was doing and how well dad was doing, how safe dad was, how everything was going well for dad. And I wrote a blog inside. He's the one who published that blog. Each entry he published.

This is the kid who watched his dad not only go through it, but maintain communication, clarity, love, support, and made sure everybody in the family knew how good dad was doing and how well dad was doing, how safe dad was, how everything was going well for dad. And I wrote a blog inside. He's the one who published that blog. Each entry he published.