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James Clear

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The Peter Attia Drive
Building & Changing Habits | James Clear (#183 rebroadcast)

Like I'm sure there's a group of friends who are really into driving cars. And there's probably another group who's like really into bow hunting and archery. And there are all kinds of habits that these little tribes do.

The Peter Attia Drive
Building & Changing Habits | James Clear (#183 rebroadcast)

And it might seem strange to the normal person, but it's probably very casual or typical or easy relatively for you to stick to those habits, especially when you're part of those groups or talking with those guys, because it's just part of something that it's part of what they do. And I think maybe the deeper lesson here is that we don't just do habits because of the results they get us.

The Peter Attia Drive
Building & Changing Habits | James Clear (#183 rebroadcast)

And it might seem strange to the normal person, but it's probably very casual or typical or easy relatively for you to stick to those habits, especially when you're part of those groups or talking with those guys, because it's just part of something that it's part of what they do. And I think maybe the deeper lesson here is that we don't just do habits because of the results they get us.

The Peter Attia Drive
Building & Changing Habits | James Clear (#183 rebroadcast)

We also take behaviors because they are a signal to the people around us that, hey, I get it, I fit in, I understand how to act in this group.

The Peter Attia Drive
Building & Changing Habits | James Clear (#183 rebroadcast)

We also take behaviors because they are a signal to the people around us that, hey, I get it, I fit in, I understand how to act in this group.

The Peter Attia Drive
Building & Changing Habits | James Clear (#183 rebroadcast)

Most people, if they have to choose between having the habits they want to have, but they kind of go against the grain of the group, they like don't really fit in well, they get ostracized, or having habits that they don't really love, but they get to go along with the crowd, they fit in, they get praised for being part of the group.

The Peter Attia Drive
Building & Changing Habits | James Clear (#183 rebroadcast)

Most people, if they have to choose between having the habits they want to have, but they kind of go against the grain of the group, they like don't really fit in well, they get ostracized, or having habits that they don't really love, but they get to go along with the crowd, they fit in, they get praised for being part of the group.

The Peter Attia Drive
Building & Changing Habits | James Clear (#183 rebroadcast)

Most people will choose belonging over loneliness, like the desire to belong will overpower the desire to improve. And so you want to make sure you get those two things aligned to join groups where your desired behavior is the normal behavior.

The Peter Attia Drive
Building & Changing Habits | James Clear (#183 rebroadcast)

Most people will choose belonging over loneliness, like the desire to belong will overpower the desire to improve. And so you want to make sure you get those two things aligned to join groups where your desired behavior is the normal behavior.

The Peter Attia Drive
Building & Changing Habits | James Clear (#183 rebroadcast)

Real quick, before we get into these four, I just want to explain the framework a little bit in particular for this episode or this show, because I feel like your audience will appreciate it more than most audiences. So I like to divide a habit into four stages. And as you said, those four stages kind of have what I call the four laws of behavior change that come out of it.

The Peter Attia Drive
Building & Changing Habits | James Clear (#183 rebroadcast)

Real quick, before we get into these four, I just want to explain the framework a little bit in particular for this episode or this show, because I feel like your audience will appreciate it more than most audiences. So I like to divide a habit into four stages. And as you said, those four stages kind of have what I call the four laws of behavior change that come out of it.

The Peter Attia Drive
Building & Changing Habits | James Clear (#183 rebroadcast)

But when I was working on Atomic Habits and researching this framework and trying to understand why do behaviors happen and how do they happen, how do habits form, I had a couple questions that I felt like previous frameworks did not answer that well.

The Peter Attia Drive
Building & Changing Habits | James Clear (#183 rebroadcast)

But when I was working on Atomic Habits and researching this framework and trying to understand why do behaviors happen and how do they happen, how do habits form, I had a couple questions that I felt like previous frameworks did not answer that well.

The Peter Attia Drive
Building & Changing Habits | James Clear (#183 rebroadcast)

While researching the book, I was able to find 40 different models of human behavior that biologists and neuroscientists and psychologists, a bunch of different industries had come up with over the last, say, about 150 years. broadly speaking, those models of human behavior tended to fall into one of two categories. The first category are what I would call like motivation models.

The Peter Attia Drive
Building & Changing Habits | James Clear (#183 rebroadcast)

While researching the book, I was able to find 40 different models of human behavior that biologists and neuroscientists and psychologists, a bunch of different industries had come up with over the last, say, about 150 years. broadly speaking, those models of human behavior tended to fall into one of two categories. The first category are what I would call like motivation models.

The Peter Attia Drive
Building & Changing Habits | James Clear (#183 rebroadcast)

So they explain things like internal drives and motivations and cravings and kind of like what compels us to act. And then the second category were what I would call reinforcement models. And so they described the rewards that we get from behaviors and how those things kind of reinforce our behavior and essentially what happens like after an action.

The Peter Attia Drive
Building & Changing Habits | James Clear (#183 rebroadcast)

So they explain things like internal drives and motivations and cravings and kind of like what compels us to act. And then the second category were what I would call reinforcement models. And so they described the rewards that we get from behaviors and how those things kind of reinforce our behavior and essentially what happens like after an action.

The Peter Attia Drive
Building & Changing Habits | James Clear (#183 rebroadcast)

And what I wanted to do was try to come up with a model that I felt like accurately described both the motivation that may come before and the reinforcement that may come after and how those things influence the actions that we take. And there were a variety of what I thought were fairly simple questions about human behavior that weren't totally answered by the previous models.

The Peter Attia Drive
Building & Changing Habits | James Clear (#183 rebroadcast)

And what I wanted to do was try to come up with a model that I felt like accurately described both the motivation that may come before and the reinforcement that may come after and how those things influence the actions that we take. And there were a variety of what I thought were fairly simple questions about human behavior that weren't totally answered by the previous models.

The Peter Attia Drive
Building & Changing Habits | James Clear (#183 rebroadcast)

So things like what causes somebody to try a habit in the first place? You haven't experienced the reward at that point. So why would you take the first bite of a pancake or the first smoke of a cigarette? What would motivate you to do that? Started with BF Skinner stimulus response reward.