James Glissan

So if people wanted that change, people have a great degree of influence over how the law works.

I know people don't think they do.

Often it's because they don't understand what they can do to influence it.

But that can change and it can be pushed back into the military jurisdiction if it's allowed to.

How could it get put back in the military jurisdiction?

For the criminal offence aspect of things?

Well, there are ways that we could sort of bridge the gap between military jurisdiction and federal jurisdiction.

Now, it gets a bit tricky with offences.

Right.

Because often when you come to criminal offences, you need what's called a Chapter 3 court, which is a constitutionally approved court.

And that does have issues.

But because we are a system where Parliament can...

write all kinds of laws so long as they're not unconstitutional and they can make sweeping changes and we've seen that over the last six months a lot of changes have been occurring there are ways that the public may be able to influence that not for this case but in the future as to how things are put together through the public opinion um process what's what's likely to happen to him if he gets convicted

Yeah, they do.

Especially when you're talking about offences where they can occur overseas but be charged here.

That's already a very high bar.

So these offences all carry life imprisonment.

Well, there's- The rest of your life or- 25 years.

25 years.

But it'll depend on how that's applied because just because that's the maximum doesn't mean that's what people get.