James Kimmel, Jr.

So Jesse was in the first classroom that Adam Lanza went in.

They were still at their seats.

They were caught by surprise.

And from the information we have that before Jesse was shot, he was able to tell his classmates to run.

And nine of his classmates were able to run out of the classroom before they were shot.

Two ended up hiding in a bathroom.

And unfortunately, we lost Jesse.

Five of them and their two teachers in that classroom.

And it sounds like Scarlett had a conversation with Jesse about that earlier that probably led up to that.

We're perceiving an attack, potentially on our bodies, but we're also perceiving an attack on our ego. We see it as a sign of disrespect. That is searing pain. Right in your head, it's real pain. We can see that on brain imaging.

We're perceiving an attack, potentially on our bodies, but we're also perceiving an attack on our ego. We see it as a sign of disrespect. That is searing pain. Right in your head, it's real pain. We can see that on brain imaging.

We're perceiving an attack, potentially on our bodies, but we're also perceiving an attack on our ego. We see it as a sign of disrespect. That is searing pain. Right in your head, it's real pain. We can see that on brain imaging.

Sure. So the recent neuroscience on revenge, which is very fresh and really it hasn't been explored at all by scientists until the last about 20 years. But what we know now is that your brain on revenge looks like your brain on drugs.

Sure. So the recent neuroscience on revenge, which is very fresh and really it hasn't been explored at all by scientists until the last about 20 years. But what we know now is that your brain on revenge looks like your brain on drugs.

Sure. So the recent neuroscience on revenge, which is very fresh and really it hasn't been explored at all by scientists until the last about 20 years. But what we know now is that your brain on revenge looks like your brain on drugs.

When you experience a grievance, and a grievance we can think about as a real or imagined perception of having been wronged, mistreated, shamed, humiliated, insulted, any of those experiences of victimization, they all register inside the brain in the pain network. which is known as the anterior insula.

When you experience a grievance, and a grievance we can think about as a real or imagined perception of having been wronged, mistreated, shamed, humiliated, insulted, any of those experiences of victimization, they all register inside the brain in the pain network. which is known as the anterior insula.

When you experience a grievance, and a grievance we can think about as a real or imagined perception of having been wronged, mistreated, shamed, humiliated, insulted, any of those experiences of victimization, they all register inside the brain in the pain network. which is known as the anterior insula.

And when that area of the brain, which is your brain registering significant psychological or physical pain, your brain doesn't like pain and it wants to rebalance itself. So it's got too much pain and it wants to reverse that or balance that. And the way it does it, it turns out, for revenge seeking,

And when that area of the brain, which is your brain registering significant psychological or physical pain, your brain doesn't like pain and it wants to rebalance itself. So it's got too much pain and it wants to reverse that or balance that. And the way it does it, it turns out, for revenge seeking,