James Kimmel, Jr.

This is even better than that because you get to decide guilt and innocence and you get to hand down the sentence. And then you imagine becoming the warden and carrying out that sentence and punishing the person. And this enables you to kind of safely gratify your revenge desires without doing it in real life so that you're not harming yourself or anyone else.

And then in the last and final step, you become the judge of your own life in which you decide whether it was really useful to continue trying to punish this person or whether, and that's when you get to imagine what it would feel like to forgive,

And then in the last and final step, you become the judge of your own life in which you decide whether it was really useful to continue trying to punish this person or whether, and that's when you get to imagine what it would feel like to forgive,

And then in the last and final step, you become the judge of your own life in which you decide whether it was really useful to continue trying to punish this person or whether, and that's when you get to imagine what it would feel like to forgive,

whether it might feel better to actually forgive this whole thing and move on with your life and you have to decide and we all do if you think about it mike every day every moment with every grievance or victimization we have to decide at some point are we going to move on from this or are we going to keep nursing as someone who well and i i think this applies to everyone everyone has entertained thoughts of revenge when they've been wronged and

whether it might feel better to actually forgive this whole thing and move on with your life and you have to decide and we all do if you think about it mike every day every moment with every grievance or victimization we have to decide at some point are we going to move on from this or are we going to keep nursing as someone who well and i i think this applies to everyone everyone has entertained thoughts of revenge when they've been wronged and

whether it might feel better to actually forgive this whole thing and move on with your life and you have to decide and we all do if you think about it mike every day every moment with every grievance or victimization we have to decide at some point are we going to move on from this or are we going to keep nursing as someone who well and i i think this applies to everyone everyone has entertained thoughts of revenge when they've been wronged and

thanks mike it's been a real pleasure and an honor to be on your show today

thanks mike it's been a real pleasure and an honor to be on your show today

thanks mike it's been a real pleasure and an honor to be on your show today