James King

You are doing this.

And they don't interpret it any other way.

They don't sit there and be like, well, they're telling me to turn the light green.

Well, all right, I'm going to turn it green.

I'm not going to ask, well, do you want lime green?

Do you want hue green?

Do you want this?

Or do, hey, how about blue?

Or like, bright icing would be better here.

It's just, I'm going to turn green.

It doesn't know if it has no other say to it.

So yeah, I just think that's probably the hardest thing, especially as programmers going from being very literal to dealing with vague information.

Yeah, I'm not.

It's always great to take your best programmer and make him a manager of programming, programmers and stuff like that.

And the one thing I will say, just like programming, just like any technical thing, being a leader, being a manager, you can learn a big podcast I listen to is coaching for leaders.

And they're saying there is coaches aren't born or leaders aren't born, they're made.

And yes, I have gone through some rough patches as a manager and, you know, leader.

And, you know, I have grown and learned it's a different muscle.

It's a different mindset.

So I do feel people can learn it.