James Kynge

You know, there's a lot of intraoperability.

And I'm James King.

Well, yeah, Alice, I mean, it may be an obvious point, but I think China's space strategy is not primarily about space.

It's all about planet Earth and particularly how to dominate the global order on Earth, of course, by enlisting space to gain advantage.

And as you've just said,

You know, when you look at what China and, of course, the US is doing in space, there's a military domain and there's a commercial domain.

And then there's this sort of fuzzy hybrid domain, dual use, I suppose, that could be military, could be commercial.

And the more you look at all of the space furniture up there, the more you scratch your head and think, well, could that be military?

Could that be commercial?

You know, there's a lot of intraoperability there.

But when I was doing a bit of research on this, I must say, I came across one quote from a China military expert that really stopped me in my tracks.

This was in a story by the Financial Times, and it's written by, as I said, a military expert in a textbook

for Chinese military officers.

So this isn't sort of for public consumption.

This is something directed at the Chinese military, which I think shows that it's pretty authentic.

And basically this expert says that China intends to control the earth

by controlling space.

Let me just give you the whole quote because I think it is really quite startling.

He says, looking up at the skies today, we see that space is already shrouded in the smoke of potential conflict.

And then he continues by saying,