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James Kynge

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2305 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The U.S. vs China AI Battle Is Getting Ugly

So I would say all of this to me means that the rivalry has entered a new phase.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The U.S. vs China AI Battle Is Getting Ugly

The White House is talking about exploring measures to hold foreign actors accountable.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The U.S. vs China AI Battle Is Getting Ugly

That's the phrase they use for industrial-scale distillation campaigns.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The U.S. vs China AI Battle Is Getting Ugly

To me, I think the important thing is that politically, geopolitically, this is a step change.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The U.S. vs China AI Battle Is Getting Ugly

It is like...

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The U.S. vs China AI Battle Is Getting Ugly

the US law enforcement agencies are limbering up to really get moving on the AI frontiers with China.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The U.S. vs China AI Battle Is Getting Ugly

So what is distilling?

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The U.S. vs China AI Battle Is Getting Ugly

It's basically the scenario in which a Chinese AI company would send hundreds of thousands or millions of prompts

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The U.S. vs China AI Battle Is Getting Ugly

probably from proxy accounts through VPNs to camouflage their source, to a US LLM.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The U.S. vs China AI Battle Is Getting Ugly

That's a large language model.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The U.S. vs China AI Battle Is Getting Ugly

And then it collects all the replies that it gets, and it collates all those replies, and that allows it to develop a sense of the decision-making patterns of the U.S.,

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The U.S. vs China AI Battle Is Getting Ugly

large language model, its reasoning, its confidence levels.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The U.S. vs China AI Battle Is Getting Ugly

It effectively allows it to kind of map what the algorithm behind the target LLM is.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The U.S. vs China AI Battle Is Getting Ugly

To me, this is what this distillation is like.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The U.S. vs China AI Battle Is Getting Ugly

Now, just to give China their say, they say that the US claims are entirely baseless.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The U.S. vs China AI Battle Is Getting Ugly

They say they're a slanderous smear against the achievements of China's artificial intelligence industry.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The U.S. vs China AI Battle Is Getting Ugly

But, you know, whatever the truth is, it feels like both sides are getting more acrimonious that the temperature on the AI competition between China and the U.S.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The U.S. vs China AI Battle Is Getting Ugly

is getting stronger.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The U.S. vs China AI Battle Is Getting Ugly

But what's your sense, Alice?

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The U.S. vs China AI Battle Is Getting Ugly

How do you see it?