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James Kynge

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2305 total appearances

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The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The AI Advantage No One Is Talking About

So it's a word or part of a word or a punctuation mark that is represented by a token ID.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The AI Advantage No One Is Talking About

So a token ID is assigned to a bit of a word like that.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The AI Advantage No One Is Talking About

And all of the large language models

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The AI Advantage No One Is Talking About

use these token IDs or these tokens to generate text.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The AI Advantage No One Is Talking About

So every time you put a question into your large language model, what is actually happening in the technology is that a whole load of tokens are being generated in order to answer your question.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The AI Advantage No One Is Talking About

So that's really it.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The AI Advantage No One Is Talking About

But

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The AI Advantage No One Is Talking About

Now that we've got the rise of agentic AI, so these are pieces of software that actually do tasks.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The AI Advantage No One Is Talking About

So for instance, you could ask an AI agent to book your entire holiday.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The AI Advantage No One Is Talking About

You just write, please book me a holiday in France.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The AI Advantage No One Is Talking About

with a few more instructions.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The AI Advantage No One Is Talking About

It'll book your air tickets, it'll book your hotel, book your buses, book your taxis, book everything that you need.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The AI Advantage No One Is Talking About

That is performing a task rather than simply replying to a query that you had.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The AI Advantage No One Is Talking About

And of course, that uses many, many more tokens than simply asking a question.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The AI Advantage No One Is Talking About

So let me come to the crucial aspect of this, the cost differential between Chinese-generated tokens and US-generated tokens.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The AI Advantage No One Is Talking About

So just to give you a little bit of an example, Minimax and Moonshot, these are two Chinese AI models.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The AI Advantage No One Is Talking About

Their cost per million output tokens is about two US dollars to three US dollars.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The AI Advantage No One Is Talking About

Conversely, Anthropix Claude Sonnet 4.5, that's a big American LLM, they cost about 15 US dollars per million output tokens.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The AI Advantage No One Is Talking About

So there's about a six-fold gap.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: The AI Advantage No One Is Talking About

between the US and China.