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James Kynge

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759 total appearances

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The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Inside Xi’s Shocking Military Purge

So ByteDance transferred the majority of its U.S.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Inside Xi’s Shocking Military Purge

operations to a new entity.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Inside Xi’s Shocking Military Purge

That entity is called TikTokUSDS, Joint Venture LLC.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Inside Xi’s Shocking Military Purge

And that company, the joint venture, is led by Oracle, Silverlake, MGX.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Inside Xi’s Shocking Military Purge

All of those are American companies.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Inside Xi’s Shocking Military Purge

they hold over 80% of the ownership of the equity in that joint venture.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Inside Xi’s Shocking Military Purge

But ByteDance owns 19.9%.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Inside Xi’s Shocking Military Purge

So the Chinese company remains a pretty significant shareholder.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Inside Xi’s Shocking Military Purge

Now, the really important thing I think about these companies, and in the case of the TikTok US joint venture, it is also the most important thing, is the algorithm.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Inside Xi’s Shocking Military Purge

The TikTok business is nothing without the algorithm that underlies it.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Inside Xi’s Shocking Military Purge

And although Oracle is now responsible for securing the data of American users and overseeing the retraining of the recommendation algorithm using American sources, you know, so American data will be used to retrain the algorithm, the control of the algorithm will remain in the hands of ByteDance.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Inside Xi’s Shocking Military Purge

And it will lease the algorithm to the American joint venture, TikTok joint venture.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Inside Xi’s Shocking Military Purge

And it will get payments for that of around 20% of the American entity's revenue.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Inside Xi’s Shocking Military Purge

Now, so...

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Inside Xi’s Shocking Military Purge

this to me means it is ByteDance that remains in control of the algorithm.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Inside Xi’s Shocking Military Purge

And that to me is, you know, that's the key point, because it means that presumably ByteDance can tweak the algorithm anytime it wants without informing the US entity.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Inside Xi’s Shocking Military Purge

And it gives ByteDance an operational

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Inside Xi’s Shocking Military Purge

relationship with the company in the US.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Inside Xi’s Shocking Military Purge

Do you see it like that, Alice?

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Inside Xi’s Shocking Military Purge

Or am I being too kind of reds under the bed about this?