James McHugh

So right now he's fighting the states.

So what the states, California is leading it.

What the states are trying to do is say, hey, California is going to legislate what it believes should and shouldn't happen with AI.

The problem there is if you think about the same argument for cars.

Once one state is legislated for something, either you're going to have everyone...

I'm going to have 50 versions of AI or everyone's going to follow the California version.

So I think the good thing that I'm seeing is that he's getting his hands around that and saying, no, no, no, this needs to be federally legislated and we need to have a central position on it.

So again, Europe has a tendency for regulation.

I mean, we're going to get into heavy politics here, James.

We have a central, and I appreciate fully the UK is out of Europe, but ultimately the struggle with Brexit is that while you're out of Europe, you're still probably too connected to European laws because it's your largest trading partner.

But the problem inside the EU is we have an unelected central body in the middle that's

The problem with any regulator is to make their job worthwhile, they need to regulate.

Otherwise, why are they there?

So once you've created a room of regulators, then regulations will happen.

So we're regulating, not legislating.

And we need to get back to what do we want this to look like in 10 years?

What does good look like?

I think there's not one single thing.

So firstly, I think we should be absolutely making sure that AI does not and has not got the capacity or the control to talk people through suicide or to allow people to suicide themselves.

That needs to be controlled.