57. How to spot the next billion dollar opportunity before everyone else | James McHugh

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Previously titled “How to spot the next billion dollar opportunity before everyone else | James McHugh” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 3, 2026

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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

James Reed 0:00
Welcome to All About Business with me, James Reid, the podcast that covers everything about business, management, and leadership. Every episode, I sit down with different guests who have bootstrapped companies, masterminded investment models, or built a business empire.

What opportunity did James McHugh spot in Europe regarding Salesforce?

James Reed 0:15
They're leaders in their field, and they're here to give you top insights and actionable advice so that you can apply their ideas to your own career or business venture. Scaling a business globally is no easy task. From choosing the right markets to building strong teams, the stakes couldn't be higher.

How did the naming of Tequila reflect its early success?

James Reed 0:35
Joining me today on All About Business is James McHugh, founder and chairman of Tequila, a company that builds and scales technology service businesses through partnerships and early stage investments. With a portfolio worth over $1 billion and even a championship sailing win under his belt, James knows what it takes to grow and compete on the world stage.

What role do partnerships play in business success according to James McHugh?

James Reed 0:59
He's here to share insights on launching, scaling and selling businesses. Well, today on All About Business, I'm really delighted to welcome James McHugh. James, you describe yourself as a venture builder.

What opportunities and challenges does AI present for businesses?

James Reed 1:13
Could you tell me what that means and a bit more about what you actually do at Tequila?
James McHugh 1:18
Thank you. It's really nice to be here. I guess we saw an opportunity in 2010. I was, like yourself, James, in recruitment. We saw an opportunity. I was based in the San Francisco office. We couldn't keep up with demand for folk in the Salesforce space. I'd ring the Europeans and say, hey, get on to our clients. They're going to need Salesforce folk. And they'd phone me back a couple of weeks later saying, we've called everyone. There's no demand in Europe.

How is AI expected to impact employment and society?

James McHugh 1:41
So there was a arbitrage opportunity to put a services business into Europe. So I rang Salesforce.
James Reed 1:46
So hang on, explain that. So there were Salesforce people in the States, but there was no demand for them in Europe.
James McHugh 1:51
Correct. So typically what happens with software, it can be shelfware if it's not implemented.
Unknown 1:57
Right.
James McHugh 1:58
So you need people to get it off the shelf and stand it up. It's called shelfware if it's not being used. So where you have an ecosystem that's growing fast where people say, I need another 10 guys, I need another 20 guys, give me 50 guys.

What future implications does James McHugh foresee for AI and human values?

James McHugh 2:10
That tells me that there's a lot of software sales behind that that's leading to give and help us develop the people to implement that software. When we made the call into our systems integration partners in Europe and they said, hey, we don't need any of those guys. That tells me that the US is probably one to two years ahead of Europe.
James Reed 2:28
I'd say it's a bit depressing for those of us in Europe.
James McHugh 2:30
We've just got to deregulate then.

How might driverless cars change the future of transportation?

James McHugh 2:32
We've got too much regulation in Europe.
James Reed 2:33
I think it was going on in Europe because the US has got so far ahead.
James McHugh 2:36
So far ahead. It's unbelievable.
Unknown 2:38
Yeah.
James McHugh 2:39
Yeah. I saw a report the other day that Europe, I think it was 12 years ago, was something like 70, 80% of the size of the US. And now we're down to like 60% the size of the US.
James Reed 2:51
I think at the turn of the century, they're about comparable. That's right.
James McHugh 2:54
But it's accelerating, you know, and it's going to accelerate with AI. It's going to accelerate with where we're going.
James Reed 2:58
So you see this as a sort of arbitrage opportunity. Yes. So what did you actually do?
James McHugh 3:04
We contacted Salesforce. Salesforce the company. Salesforce the company. I was lucky enough to get through to a guy, Chris Cherry, who was about to leave for Europe. He put me through to the corp dev guys. another guy, Sherrick Murdoch, and we agreed if we put a couple of million bucks in, and Salesforce put a couple of million bucks in, we could set up a implementation company for them in Europe. So we'd take all of the... So this is a new business? A new business.
James Reed 3:30
It was like a joint venture between you and Salesforce? Correct. And this new business helps companies put in Salesforce products? Correct. That's what you do?
James McHugh 3:37
Correct.
James Reed 3:38
Okay.
James McHugh 3:38
So they were about to put a big push on the European market, and as you know from business, timing is everything.
James Reed 3:43
Yeah.
James McHugh 3:43
We happened to be in the right place at the right time with funds.

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