James McHugh

Sapient don't have a Salesforce practice or whatever.

We create a Salesforce practice and then we can knock on the door of Lloyds Bank and say, hey, we don't have to even do paperwork with you.

If you need these services, we can start working tomorrow.

Through Sapient.

That would accelerate our ability to create this business.

So we set up a JV with Sapient.

They owned 20%.

We owned 80%.

And we built it to 100 people in a year.

slowed down the hiring moved it from red to black numbers and they acquired it's always good isn't it yeah a good moment yeah and then they bought it and then they bought it right that was 2019.

So obviously, 18 months ago, we moved... Five with Sapien?

Yeah, well, three they bought and two are running in parallel right now.

I've been through several waves of technology.

I think when I was... You said you were a contractor originally.

Yeah, when I was in my 20s, I kind of constantly felt I didn't have the capital or the wherewithal, the time, the ability to step away from a full-time job or a contract role to benefit from these waves of technology.

And now I'm fortunate enough to have the time and the capital and the relationships.

But this time, James, it's different than anything I've seen before.

The wave that's coming with AI is monumental.

And I think it's going to be so impactful to humanity.

On so many levels.