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James Oaten

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The Case Of
‘ISIS Brides’ | The slave

It's alleged that when the father...

The Case Of
‘ISIS Brides’ | The slave

Muhammad purchased this Yazidi slave for 10,000 US dollars.

The Case Of
‘ISIS Brides’ | The slave

He's then taken her to meet the wife, Khosa, and then she has approved the sale, saying, yep, she will do, essentially.

The Case Of
‘ISIS Brides’ | The slave

So that's what makes Khosa's charges, from what we know so far, a little more serious.

The Case Of
‘ISIS Brides’ | The slave

She's facing three charges as opposed to two of the daughter.

The Case Of
‘ISIS Brides’ | The slave

Mm-hmm.

The Case Of
‘ISIS Brides’ | The slave

But during this period as well, the complainant or the alleged victim here has described Zainab Ahmed as like the, quote, deputy of the house.

The Case Of
‘ISIS Brides’ | The slave

So the allegations against Zainab Ahmed is not that she physically assaulted the girl, but that she did order her around, prevented her from leaving the home and mistreated her badly, but no allegations there of physical assault from Zainab.

The Case Of
‘ISIS Brides’ | The slave

Yeah, so first of all, I mean, there is a suppression order on revealing her, given that the allegations here against, you know, relating to sexual violence and so on.

The Case Of
‘ISIS Brides’ | The slave

And she was a minor as well at the same time.

The Case Of
‘ISIS Brides’ | The slave

There's a lot of details we don't fully know about the actual investigation for two reasons.

The Case Of
‘ISIS Brides’ | The slave

First of all, this is a bail hearing that we've had with Zainab Ahmed and then obviously with Korsar, the mother.

The Case Of
‘ISIS Brides’ | The slave

that's not really a time to start examining all the evidence in detail.

The Case Of
‘ISIS Brides’ | The slave

The way these things go is, first of all, the bail hearing is primarily about understanding the charges and then using essentially a risk assessment tool to work out whether or not bail should be granted.

The Case Of
‘ISIS Brides’ | The slave

Later down the process, then you have a committal hearing, which is where a magistrate does assess the evidence at what is available and then makes a decision whether or not

The Case Of
‘ISIS Brides’ | The slave

the evidence that is available is satisfactory for the case to go to trial.

The Case Of
‘ISIS Brides’ | The slave

And, you know, presuming along this whole way the accused is still defending themselves, then you end up with a trial where the jury will actually make a decision as well.

The Case Of
‘ISIS Brides’ | The slave

So that takes time.

The Case Of
‘ISIS Brides’ | The slave

So this is not really the time things are going to be tested thoroughly in the evidence.

The Case Of
‘ISIS Brides’ | The slave

So federal police have spelt out in the prosecution of alleged in the court is that, first of all, she showed clear and repeated support for Islamic State during some years that she was there.