James O'Keefe

And I think.

The public has a right to know at this point.

And by the way, there's some, I'm gonna just be clear to your audience.

I have relationships with some of these people.

There are some really good people in government.

There are some good people trying to do the right thing, but it's the nature of, it's the nature of institutions and bureaucracies.

It's very hard to lead when you're in a bureaucracy.

Individuals can, like Nick Shirley, he's an individual.

He can take enormous risks.

I think it's challenging for a bureaucracy to take those risks, but stay tuned.

I felt the immigrants, sometimes they're vilified.

I think it's the system, the border being open, and the NGOs in the United States that house them.

It's all about money.

And I didn't know that.

I went into that investigation thinking, oh, there's some sinister plot.

No, no, no.

It's all about money.

I have so much energy.

I saw you at the rave, you had a lot of energy.

You know, movement begets movement, so that's how it goes.