The Megyn Kelly Show
Truth About Shooting in Minneapolis, and Shock Anti-ICE Network Details, w/ James O'Keefe, Dave Aronberg, and Andrew Branca | Ep. 1238
26 Jan 2026
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. We begin with the shooting of a 37-year-old man in Minneapolis and what President Trump should do about it.
I mean, what he should do about his mission, his ongoing mission and the country's to rid the United States of criminal illegal aliens, which is exactly what he was elected to do. He was elected with majority support to get rid of all the illegals here, all of them.
The country was united, at least a majority of it was, in getting rid of the illegals who are here, never mind the worst, the worst ones, the ones who have committed additional crimes. Of course, everyone, the majority, was united in that. And that's what he's been trying to do. And he has gone city after city trying to do it with very little problems.
except in Minneapolis, where he has a true insurrection at hand. I mean, he does. He has an insurrection at hand. And it's evident in the streets there day after day after day.
Chapter 2: What happened during the shooting of Alex Preddy in Minneapolis?
And the question is, what do we do about it? On Saturday, a 37-year-old man, Alex Preddy, was shot by Border Patrol agents there after a confrontation. Alex Preddy was there being subversive. He was there trying to interfere with the traffic, trying to direct traffic into an ICE operation from the look of it. He was not there to help.
He was not there to assist law enforcement or make things easier for them. He was there with a loaded gun looking to cause trouble for the Border Patrol agents. And that trouble came back on him. We'll get into the specifics in the frame by frame and all of that in a minute. But I just want to say, like, I don't personally I'm I'm so sick of this bullshit.
I like these are organized agitators who train to disrupt and in some cases hurt law enforcement. They go out there looking for confrontations that they can. make go viral on their social media or that they can use as propaganda to turn people against the good guys, the ones who are trying to rid us of the scourge of child molesting illegals. That's what they want to do.
They want to paint themselves as noble and the ICE or the Border Patrol agents as awful and get some sort of confrontation on camera or something that'll make them look silly or bad or brutal.
And then when things turn actually bad and brutal and dangerous, and in the case of Rene Good and now this Alex Pretty, all of their remaining enablers rush to social media and the cameras to say, you see, see, we told you. No, no.
Even if I, Megyn Kelly, went to interrupt law enforcement conducting lawful arrests and law enforcement operations with a loaded gun, it tucked into the back of my pants, and then I engaged in a physical confrontation with them, physical, where I'm shoving and they're shoving, I'd be in grave danger. Grave danger.
Yes, the gun is definitely going to amp up the police officer's reasonable fear for their own safety. But even without me having a gun in this scenario, I'd be in grave danger because resisting arrest can lead to very bad things. Just ask George Floyd. Like, you don't do it. Bad things can come. You don't resist arrest.
You don't antagonize cops in the middle of the street in a law enforcement operation. And then when they've got hands on you trying to place you under arrest, you submit. That's it. submit. Haven't we all had this conversation with our children? I've told my boys and my daughter this, my husband too. We've all talked to our kids about it.
And I know some back during BLM, they wanted to say only black people have this conversation with their kids. Bullshit.
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Chapter 3: How does Megyn Kelly analyze the media's portrayal of the shooting?
Every normal parent tells their children, if you get pulled over by a cop or find yourself interacting with a cop, You submit. If they are being a prick, a racist, a bully, overbearing, if they're wrong, if they don't actually have the right person, we will deal with it later. Because you don't antagonize a law officer with a gun. It's just they face too many threats that are deadly to them.
We have to be the ones to be extra careful about not antagonizing. We do, especially in Minnesota and Minneapolis because of what they're doing to the Border Patrol and the ICE there. I'm sorry, but there's actually a greater, ironically, responsibility on those protesters. They're terrorists in my view.
to behave well and submit immediately than there is on anybody else because they have put these guys on the razor's edge. I mean, as Alex Preddy is getting shot, an ICE officer was getting elsewhere in Minnesota, his finger bitten off by one of these terrorists. Like, I know I'm supposed to feel sorry for Alex Preddy, but I don't. I don't.
Do you know why I wasn't shot by Border Patrol this weekend? Because I kept my ass inside and out of their operations. It's very simple. If I felt strongly enough about something the government was doing that I would go out and protest, I would do it peacefully on the sidewalk without interfering via a whistle, via shouting, via my body, via any other way.
I would make my objections known by standing there without interfering because interfering is is where you go south. And laying hands on a police officer trying to, or border patrol officer, or ICE officer trying to conduct a law enforcement operation is a felony. And now you are going to get arrested. And if you do anything, anything that resembles resisting, you're in serious trouble.
It doesn't give them the, quote, right to shoot you. It amps up the situation and the danger such that they may be found in reasonable fear of their safety if they do. I sent out I sent out a post on X over the weekend saying, you know, maybe it's time for President Trump to just pull ice out of Minnesota. Pull them. Not as a cave to these lunatics, but to teach them a lesson.
Let's pull all of ICE and all of Border Patrol and then say, you know what, world? There's going to be zero federal immigration enforcement anywhere in this state. In fact, if you're a criminal, illegal alien anywhere in the United States, here is your invitation to move to Minnesota, where we are telling you you will be safe.
You will be safe there from federal immigration officials to commit crimes, no matter how destructive or disgusting it may be. Go ahead. Have at it. Have at the people of Minnesota. I'm sorry. If you're a Republican, you're going to have to leave. You're going to have to get out. I know it's inconvenient. I had to do it. Look, we fled New York.
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Chapter 4: What insights does James O'Keefe share about anti-ICE protests in Minneapolis?
We had to. Had to do it for the good of our kids. We went to a blue state, Connecticut, which is a little bit more purple in certain pockets. But I'm sorry. You've chosen to live in a state that is just too insane. And honestly, like... We all the illegals should go there.
And we should also tell me you could set up a fraudulent business there and it will flourish unchecked with the help of Minnesota taxpayers, not federal, because we're going to have to find a way to cut off federal taxpayer money to Minnesota. That's obvious. They're basically seceding from the union.
And also every single asylum seeker in the USA, Trump has done a good job of shutting down asylum seekers because it was just so abused under Biden. But let's say we reopen that spigot or we allow some to pursue it. Every single one must live in Minnesota if they want to apply for asylum. We are not considering any asylum applications that come from anybody from a state other than Minnesota.
Let's get them all into Minneapolis and St. Paul. Get them all there. You love the illegals so much. Go there. Welcome them into your community with the open arms you purport to have as they're being deported and shipped out. I mean, as they're being shoved out, you're suddenly super welcoming. Okay.
I mean, they're committing forcible sodomy on children, but I guess that, you know, you'll just handle it. Maybe you'll just give them a cup of chamomile tea and talk them out of their lawless ways. Good luck. I honestly like I'm tongue in cheek here, but I'm like something dramatic must be done.
Like, if this is how it's going to go, if they don't want any help from the federal government, who's got sole responsibility for immigration enforcement, sole. The states have none. It is up to President Trump to deport the illegals and to secure the border. If they don't want anything to do with it, they don't want the feds doing their job, which is not for them to say.
I mean, it is subversive, unlawful, and you could argue now insurrection-y what they're doing. Maybe the answer is, okay. OK. Have them. Remember when Texas Governor Greg Abbott, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis shipped the illegals who had been crossing the border north to Chicago, to New York, to Martha's Vineyard? It changed everything. Changed the entire conversation.
All those rich progressives in Martha's Vineyard couldn't get those illegals out of their island fast enough. Remember? I mean, it was like literally less than 48 hours. Governor DeSantis sent 50, 50 of them to the island. Less than two days later, they'd been shipped off to mainland Massachusetts. Remember? And then somebody said, somebody was interviewed and said, oh, we missed them.
We're going to go visit them at the facility to which they've been shipped. Sure, sure, Jan. How'd those visits go? Probably lost... It's like, you know, adopting a hamster. You lost interest after the first week, I'm sure. Honestly, but...
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Chapter 5: What are the legal implications surrounding the Alex Preddy shooting?
They felt the pain that previously only Texas had felt. And maybe what we need to do is let Minneapolis, they love the illegal so much, let's ship them all there. We've got detention facilities all over the country. Maybe they all need to be in Minneapolis now. Sorry, they do.
Sure, we've got some federal land, some federal parks that we can fill with ICE detention facilities, and then we can incentivize the other illegals. Maybe we'll tell them we're going to implement E-Verify everywhere in the union, all 50 states except one, except one, Minnesota. You can get a job there. You can work with the state government. Let's just create every single incentive we can.
I'm sorry for our normal people in Minnesota. I really am. I realize this is completely F you over. You're going to have to move. You're going to have to get out. There are other states that are also like Minnesota, like Michigan, but slightly less crazy. Again, I'm tongue in cheek, but I'm also genuinely trying to think of ways to respond to this other than just amping up law enforcement.
Because the downside of amping up the law enforcement or actually invoking the Insurrection Act, which many are saying it's time to do, is President Trump is going down in the polls day by day as a result of all this. The media... has lost its mind.
Chapter 6: How do the guests debate the justification of the shooting?
It's even more biased and disgusting than normal. And it's doing its level best to completely tank Trump and all Republicans on this. And it's working. It's working. The polls keep showing eroding, like rapidly eroding support for President Trump's immigration efforts, which are completely noble.
and well-intended and the right policy, but losing support because of the media, because of David Muir and others like him. I was talking to my mom. My mom somehow fell over into watching ABC Evening News. She started to sound like a leftist. I said, mom, what the hell? What are you doing? She said, oh, I've been out during the day, so I've just been popping on David Muir at night.
I said, mom, I insist that you stop that. I insist. She's like, oh, you know, if I just want like a half an hour update. Like, no. Now she's watching Special Report if she needs to watch news in the six o'clock hour. She's getting back on track. But this is like the manipulation of people, even people who should know better, is ubiquitous. It's ubiquitous. It's ABC. It's NBC. It's CBS. It's CNN.
It's MSNBC. It's The New York Times. It's The Washington Post. It's Chicago Tribune. It's the Minneapolis Star Tribune. It's everywhere. It's everywhere. And so President Trump is losing on this issue. Don't kid yourself. I say this as a supporter who doesn't want him to. But this is going to turn into an absolute bloodbath come the midterms.
I mean, we're talking about possibly losing Senate seats, losing the Senate and control, Republican control. So something needs to be done. So do we just invoke the Insurrection Act and say we're tough and like F you and this is what we do? I mean, I'd be happy with it, but I have to think about the rest of the nation and I have to think about what's going to play long-term.
And I just don't know that sending the actual military there to keep matters in hand is going to do it.
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Chapter 7: What evidence is presented regarding the actions of law enforcement?
And I also don't want to see law enforcement continue to risk their lives. I mean, honestly, like, I'm really, Renee Good and Alex Preddy, they died because of their own terrible decision-making. That's that. That's the truth. The rest of us are alive right now because we didn't do that. But I'm worried about the ICE agents.
I'm worried about the Border Patrol agents who actually are just trying to enforce the law. And it's just a matter of time before one of them gets killed. You know, we've already seen several injuries. We've already seen them shot. It's just a matter of time before one of them gets killed. On Sunday, Vice President J.D.
Vance wrote on X, quote, this level of engineered chaos is unique to Minneapolis. It's the direct consequence of far left agitators working with local authorities. He's right. According to data collected by the nonpartisan transactional records access clearinghouse, ICE arrests and detains far more illegals in Texas than any other state. Around 17,000 makes sense given its border state location.
An NBC News tracker finds there are around 1,700 detainees in Minnesota. Think of it. Not 17,000, just 1,700 in Minnesota. Put all the attention in Minnesota right now. Why? Why? Reporters at Fox News reviewed a sophisticated database of coordinated web chats by far-left groups in Minneapolis.
On Saturday, followers were told to swarm Glam Doll Donuts, where this shooting of Alex Preddy just so happened to go down. In minutes, we're going to be speaking with independent reporter James O'Keefe, who's in Minneapolis. He posted on X over the weekend saying he's covered the cartels operating around the southern border and beyond.
But even he is struck by how organized and evil these agitators in Minneapolis are. He said they have spotters on most street corners, even 30 minutes outside of the downtown, going into the suburbs. He said there's an autonomous zone being set up, like a no-go zone for law enforcement, period. He went there and said he identified himself as press, and they said they will kill press.
At one point, they patted him down like they were the authorities, patted James O'Keefe down for weapons like they were the authorities. We don't know if Alex Preddy was sent to that area specifically by these anti-ice agitators or whether he was officially part of the group. But some on that street were because they had the telltale signal of whistleblowing, which is their favorite thing.
And by the way, that needs to stop. OK, now some are saying that's fine. That actually is interference. If you came out on your front lawn and just whistle, blew a coach's whistle at the top of your lungs all day, you would be cited by the police under the local noise ordinances. It would be a disturbance of the peace. That's what these people are doing.
And no doubt they contributed to the chaotic atmosphere that ultimately led Alex Preddy to die on Saturday. The cops aren't 100% at their best when they can't hear anything. People are screaming in their ears and blowing whistles in their ears. It increases the likelihood of a bad shoot. No doubt by now you've probably seen at least one of the videos of the shooting on Saturday.
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Chapter 8: How does the conversation shift to the broader implications of immigration enforcement?
I think they're ready to defend their guy, though many are saying it was a bad shoot. Off the record, you know, not attributable. But a bad shoot doesn't mean that cop's going to jail. It means it could potentially mean he made a mistake. Interpretations of what happened vary because there were so many agents involved in the tussle with Preti.
So there's a body covering critical angles from virtually every camera we have. The incident started with Pretty seen on camera holding his own cell phone, recording agents who DHS says were sent to the area to arrest an illegal with a violent criminal history. Cool. That's what they should have been allowed to do. DHS says that person remains at large this morning. I mean, not for nothing.
Jesse Kelly's always saying it's always the nurses. Like, you can take it to the bank. This is one of the groups that you're going to see out there. Boy, things have changed. You know, my mom spent her life as a VA nurse. She helped veterans. She helped with PTSD. She helped with mental health counseling. She helped with drug addiction.
Never in her wildest dreams would she consider going out there to impede law enforcement in the evenings while she saved lives during the days. So, I mean, like, it's great this guy spent his days helping veterans. He spent his evenings hurting a lot of them. A lot of vets do join law enforcement for obvious reasons. And then he went back to the scene.
So you hear whistles going off as these two women yell at a Border Patrol agent. Again, they're there to arrest a criminal illegal. And this is what the agitators do not want. They treat every single person who's about to get arrested as though they're just some innocent little child. But, I mean, in fact, over 70% of those who ISIS nabbed in Minneapolis have been violent criminal illegals.
Illegals who already have a conviction for a violent felony or have been arrested for a violent felony. Criminal illegals who are violent. Okay, but they don't want that. They want to get in the face of those trying to do the arrests here at Border Patrol, distract them, terrorize them, harass them. pollute them with the noise pollution and the screaming and the yelling and the whistles.
And you'll hear some of that here. This video was obtained by Dropsite News. Watch. Sorry for the listening audience. It's deafening. This is what they have to deal with.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
OK, what you're seeing there at one point, Alex Preddy was in the middle of the road. They said that he was directing traffic and there were reports that he was directing traffic like right in the way of ice. He did not. It wasn't like, oh, let me be a good Samaritan. This is what we've we've been told, but that he was agitating. In any event, he was doing something with the traffic.
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