James O'Keefe

I'm resisting Donald Trump. I'm not giving information to the president. And Trump wanted to make a video with me about reacting to this. And I said, how do you deal with it? I said, I'm serious. And he goes, he's signing this hat to my dad. And he goes, I just don't care. I just don't care. I was like, you don't care? He's like, I don't care. Maybe he doesn't care.

But he has been able to develop a way, perhaps, where he just got thick skin, you know? But it's tough. It's really tough to face these attacks. And I can be strong, right? I cannot bear false witness, right? I can say I will not talk to you. Screw you. But my people around me have to be really, really strong.

But he has been able to develop a way, perhaps, where he just got thick skin, you know? But it's tough. It's really tough to face these attacks. And I can be strong, right? I cannot bear false witness, right? I can say I will not talk to you. Screw you. But my people around me have to be really, really strong.

That's an interesting question.

That's an interesting question.

Interesting. And whether you have something, I mean, people, everyone has skeletons in their closet, correct? Maybe something we've done that we're not proud of. Would you agree with that statement? Maybe not illegal, although maybe you stole something when you were a teenager. But isn't it true that we all, every single one of us has something that we're not... No one walks on water.

Interesting. And whether you have something, I mean, people, everyone has skeletons in their closet, correct? Maybe something we've done that we're not proud of. Would you agree with that statement? Maybe not illegal, although maybe you stole something when you were a teenager. But isn't it true that we all, every single one of us has something that we're not... No one walks on water.

We sin. And I mean, myself included. These board members of my company were trying to leak intimate messages between me and my girlfriend, which made them look bad because everyone has an intimate... a consensual life in your, in your bad bedroom. But I think your point is interesting.

We sin. And I mean, myself included. These board members of my company were trying to leak intimate messages between me and my girlfriend, which made them look bad because everyone has an intimate... a consensual life in your, in your bad bedroom. But I think your point is interesting.

What I would say in response to that is that the, yeah, the, the motivation, the incentive for people not to have those skeletons leaked is extremely high. People will do anything to avoid being publicly shamed. And this is where this blackmail and this extortion thing comes in. My philosophy, you want to know what I said? I said, go ahead, make my day. Leak it. I don't care. I don't give a shit.

What I would say in response to that is that the, yeah, the, the motivation, the incentive for people not to have those skeletons leaked is extremely high. People will do anything to avoid being publicly shamed. And this is where this blackmail and this extortion thing comes in. My philosophy, you want to know what I said? I said, go ahead, make my day. Leak it. I don't care. I don't give a shit.

Publish everything. And they did. Evidently, they don't have much on me because the FBI went through every message in my phone for five years and all they could get was some kinky messages between me and my girlfriend. But I do think that the what do you what is your answer? Which of those do you think is an employer you'd focus on between those two?

Publish everything. And they did. Evidently, they don't have much on me because the FBI went through every message in my phone for five years and all they could get was some kinky messages between me and my girlfriend. But I do think that the what do you what is your answer? Which of those do you think is an employer you'd focus on between those two?

I think my concern as an employer would be, I don't know if this falls into your dichotomy, but, okay, information on people. Will the enemy, will the person allow the enemy to use that information as leverage? And I'm the type of person where they may have something on me. I don't care. Publish it.

I think my concern as an employer would be, I don't know if this falls into your dichotomy, but, okay, information on people. Will the enemy, will the person allow the enemy to use that information as leverage? And I'm the type of person where they may have something on me. I don't care. Publish it.

But do my employees, are they able to be strong enough or will the enemy come and say, we have this information upon you, now betray your mission?

But do my employees, are they able to be strong enough or will the enemy come and say, we have this information upon you, now betray your mission?

Which is what our FBI is not doing.

Which is what our FBI is not doing.

Correct. I would say people are enraged about this.