James O'Loughlin

You write in your book that grief is the price we pay for liking someone.

That's so true.

That really hit me.

It's incredibly obvious, but it's not something you think of, isn't it?

You say it can feel like depression, but it's not.

It's not the same thing at all, is it?

In some ways, this is a story about the importance of old friends, really.

Maybe that's what ultimately, it's about how you can take on, amateurs can take on a government and get a good result.

That's a really good story.

But it's ultimately, it's a story about the importance of old, old friends, the people who were witnesses to your life when you were both young and foolish.

And

There's some kind of deep comfort in those friendships.

It's like pulling on an old boot when you see them each time, isn't it?

That's the kind of nature of that friendship?

You say there's one memory of him you keep coming back to and that was him at your mum's funeral.

What did he do on that, Dave?

Amazing story, James.

Thank you for sharing it.

Thanks, Richard.

James's book is called The Missing Piece.