James Pogue

if you look at like what his priorities are yeah he wants to do his technologist grand future and go to mars and all of this but then meanwhile he's out there talking about the afd and supporting the german far-right movement the german far-right movement there i mean he was backing am i wrong about this he was backing tommy robinson you know in england who's this sort of like

if you look at like what his priorities are yeah he wants to do his technologist grand future and go to mars and all of this but then meanwhile he's out there talking about the afd and supporting the german far-right movement the german far-right movement there i mean he was backing am i wrong about this he was backing tommy robinson you know in england who's this sort of like

Widely viewed there is the white nationalist celebrity that's sort of their version of what Richard Spencer used to represent back in the day.

Widely viewed there is the white nationalist celebrity that's sort of their version of what Richard Spencer used to represent back in the day.

Right.

Right.

Yeah. And my very distinct impression of Musk, and I'm really, I'm not trying to get drone struck here. My very distinct impression of Musk is that he really, really needs people to like him like in a big way. And he's ultra, ultra responsive to whims of people who are really in a pretty tight bubble on this thing that he has created, this thing.

Yeah. And my very distinct impression of Musk, and I'm really, I'm not trying to get drone struck here. My very distinct impression of Musk is that he really, really needs people to like him like in a big way. And he's ultra, ultra responsive to whims of people who are really in a pretty tight bubble on this thing that he has created, this thing.

vast sort of talking chamber of x that to some degree actually like does just shape policy in this administration because everybody's sort of doing it they're having it out like in a public forum that just never existed in the previous history of of american politics if for no other reason than it wasn't technologically possible right so

vast sort of talking chamber of x that to some degree actually like does just shape policy in this administration because everybody's sort of doing it they're having it out like in a public forum that just never existed in the previous history of of american politics if for no other reason than it wasn't technologically possible right so

I'm not convinced he actually ideologically does represent an alternate pole, if only because his views are too inconsistent and malleable.

I'm not convinced he actually ideologically does represent an alternate pole, if only because his views are too inconsistent and malleable.

Well, okay, a couple of things here. My girlfriend was at the inauguration. She covers Trump full-time. And... To quote her, people read a lot into the seating chart. And I think she was kind of saying people read a little too much into the seating chart. And we do have to keep everyone clear if they're not following this stuff at a granular detail.

Well, okay, a couple of things here. My girlfriend was at the inauguration. She covers Trump full-time. And... To quote her, people read a lot into the seating chart. And I think she was kind of saying people read a little too much into the seating chart. And we do have to keep everyone clear if they're not following this stuff at a granular detail.

Mark Zuckerberg is not popular by any means on this movement at this time. Nothing has changed about that. And Donald Trump loves it when people come to bend the knee. He loves to get a million dollars from people to support his inauguration and then toss them an invite and have them come see him rise in his pomp and seize power again.

Mark Zuckerberg is not popular by any means on this movement at this time. Nothing has changed about that. And Donald Trump loves it when people come to bend the knee. He loves to get a million dollars from people to support his inauguration and then toss them an invite and have them come see him rise in his pomp and seize power again.

So we might be over-reading some of the presence of some of these people around it. In terms of like... whether or not Musk represents politics that are really, really opposed to, like, J.D. 's worldview. Like, we have to keep in mind, J.D. is not anti-tech. That's not where he's coming from. And he's skeptical of what tech has done.

So we might be over-reading some of the presence of some of these people around it. In terms of like... whether or not Musk represents politics that are really, really opposed to, like, J.D. 's worldview. Like, we have to keep in mind, J.D. is not anti-tech. That's not where he's coming from. And he's skeptical of what tech has done.

He's skeptical of what you might call the complex of big tech, such as we have known it in the last 10 years. All of that is true. But he's not... like Bannon, like he's not one of these people who is thinking that technology itself is somehow like a truly detrimental force in American life. That I don't, I don't, that's not anything I've ever gotten from him.

He's skeptical of what you might call the complex of big tech, such as we have known it in the last 10 years. All of that is true. But he's not... like Bannon, like he's not one of these people who is thinking that technology itself is somehow like a truly detrimental force in American life. That I don't, I don't, that's not anything I've ever gotten from him.