James Pogue

But if you are in the headspace, it's almost sort of Marxian or millenarian because it's just everything explains itself. It all fits together. It all works. And I think... for better or for worse, people are going to actually start to grasp how that vision fits together because it is going to be at least in part America's new governing vision.

But if you are in the headspace, it's almost sort of Marxian or millenarian because it's just everything explains itself. It all fits together. It all works. And I think... for better or for worse, people are going to actually start to grasp how that vision fits together because it is going to be at least in part America's new governing vision.

Yeah, I've been thinking about this. This is a square. My first recommendation is a square one, but I think it's For people who are coming a little new to this, I think it's pretty important. I would recommend Patrick Deneen's book, Regime Change.

Yeah, I've been thinking about this. This is a square. My first recommendation is a square one, but I think it's For people who are coming a little new to this, I think it's pretty important. I would recommend Patrick Deneen's book, Regime Change.

I like to think of it as like Curtis Yarvin for normies, but it explains this whole idea of elite replacement and what you're trying to do and what Deneen calls a constitutional regime change that I think a lot of people on that side of things are now hoping we're living through. So I would recommend that. I'm going to recommend next something that... I hope doesn't get me in trouble.

I like to think of it as like Curtis Yarvin for normies, but it explains this whole idea of elite replacement and what you're trying to do and what Deneen calls a constitutional regime change that I think a lot of people on that side of things are now hoping we're living through. So I would recommend that. I'm going to recommend next something that... I hope doesn't get me in trouble.

And that some people might find like very, very distasteful, but is book length. And it would be the work by Martyr Maid or Daryl Cooper, who did perhaps like most revealingly a history of Jim Jones, the guy, the Kool-Aid guy that retells the Not so much the Jim Jones— When you say the Kool-Aid guy, you don't mean the guy who made Kool-Aid, but— I do not.

And that some people might find like very, very distasteful, but is book length. And it would be the work by Martyr Maid or Daryl Cooper, who did perhaps like most revealingly a history of Jim Jones, the guy, the Kool-Aid guy that retells the Not so much the Jim Jones— When you say the Kool-Aid guy, you don't mean the guy who made Kool-Aid, but— I do not.

I mean the guy who led his followers in the People's Church down to Guyana and eventually had them all commit suicide. Martyr Made does an extremely long podcast series where it essentially does a counter-narrative of the entire history of post-1960s progress and— And it's a really revealing way of seeing from the right how they think that everything actually went wrong.

I mean the guy who led his followers in the People's Church down to Guyana and eventually had them all commit suicide. Martyr Made does an extremely long podcast series where it essentially does a counter-narrative of the entire history of post-1960s progress and— And it's a really revealing way of seeing from the right how they think that everything actually went wrong.

And it's something that I think if you kind of can get into it, and some people will violently, violently disagree with a lot of what he's saying. And they've probably seen little snippets of things that he said on Tucker Carlson about World War II that really blew up and made this guy like very anathema.

And it's something that I think if you kind of can get into it, and some people will violently, violently disagree with a lot of what he's saying. And they've probably seen little snippets of things that he said on Tucker Carlson about World War II that really blew up and made this guy like very anathema.

But if you want to understand the worldview, that Jim Jones series, I think really helps people get into the headspace of how a lot of these people on the new right think we got to the point that we're at. And it really helped me in understanding this whole thing. And then I guess my last book would be a little disconnected, but I do live in Los Angeles and I've been

But if you want to understand the worldview, that Jim Jones series, I think really helps people get into the headspace of how a lot of these people on the new right think we got to the point that we're at. And it really helped me in understanding this whole thing. And then I guess my last book would be a little disconnected, but I do live in Los Angeles and I've been

very, very disillusioned by some of the rancor and lies and idiocy around the fire policy stuff. And there's a great, fat, really boring, way too detailed, but really revealing book called Between Two Fires that is like a history of American fire by a guy named Stephen Pine. And it really teaches you a lot about the American landscape. And I think people might benefit from it.

very, very disillusioned by some of the rancor and lies and idiocy around the fire policy stuff. And there's a great, fat, really boring, way too detailed, but really revealing book called Between Two Fires that is like a history of American fire by a guy named Stephen Pine. And it really teaches you a lot about the American landscape. And I think people might benefit from it.

Thank you. I really appreciate this.

Thank you. I really appreciate this.