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James Smith

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922 total appearances

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80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

The challenge has been making big proteins and we're getting better at doing that.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

I think it's more likely that this is a trial and error type problem where you need to be doing a lot of experimentation.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

So AI could be helpful if it's able to do a lot of this troubleshooting directly.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

But to do that, you're going to need quite a lot of wet lab footprint, which doesn't make it impossible.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

That means that I think it would be more difficult than a design task.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

Yeah.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

There are actually other pathways through which mirror life could plausibly be created.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

So there's one called the stepwise conversion pathway, which would basically mean you start with a normal cell and then you engineer it so that it can create mirror components within it.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

So you make a second ribosome that's able to

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

to make mirror proteins, and then gradually you convert it completely into a mirror cell.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

In that scenario, it's possible that for engineering the ribosome, it could be helpful to use biodesign tools or something.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

I'm still not sure that it would be necessarily that helpful.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

Another way AI could help is through engineering the genome to make it easy to boot.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

So it might be the case that some genomes are just inherently easier to boot life from.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

Maybe you need to like start in a certain place in the genome and do everything in a particular order to get it to work.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

And so maybe you could be using genome design tools to think through that.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

Okay.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

There's not going to be any data on this sort of thing.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

So I think...

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

We are talking about AI that would be very advanced because it's not going to have much to draw on.