James Talarico

Yes.

I mean, people, and I like Bernie a whole lot, but some people treat him as if he's a messianic figure.

And Trump on the right, people treat him as a messiah in some ways.

I know, I know.

But he's still a flawed human being, right?

I mean, just like we all are.

I know, but my point is.

But instead of, like, the change is going to come from your listeners.

Not from me, right?

I can be a part of that.

But I mean, if there's any hope I can give people, it's that the people in power, including the billionaire mega donors who basically run this whole thing, and I can get more into that if you want.

Please do.

But they are very afraid of the power that the people have.

That I know for sure.

How so?

Because they spend so much time – let me just – so let's talk about the two billionaires that I think basically control state government here in Texas.

And you – I don't know if you or even your listeners necessarily know about them.

It's two billionaires from West Texas.

Their names are Tim Dunn and Ferris Wilkes.

Dunn and Wilkes.