James Talarico

And that's things like fear and hate and anger.

That's what gets someone to look backwards and think we got to go back to what was.

But to move someone forward, you've got to inspire, you've got to excite, and you've got to cultivate a little bit of hope because that's the only thing that'll get you to move forward.

And I should say, some of those Trump voters are in my family.

Many of them are my constituents.

I first got elected to the legislature when I was 28 years old, had never run for office before.

I was a former teacher.

And I was running in a district that had voted for Donald Trump two years before I ran.

And at the same time that I won, Greg Abbott won my district in 2018.

So there were a large chunk of voters, in fact, the voters who made the difference in the election, who voted for Greg Abbott for governor and me for state representative.

And being comfortable with that contradiction, I mean, that's the messy world of politics and human decision-making.

And if we are going to defeat Trumpism, the culture that gives rise to someone like Donald Trump, it's gonna require putting forward a new vision of what a different kind of politics would look like.

What is the antithesis of Trumpism?

What does that politics look like?

What does the country look like?

with that kind of politics.

What does it look like?

I think that people are really tired of being pitted against their neighbors.

They're tired of being told to hate their neighbors.

It's been 10 years of this Trumpian politics.