James Talarico

Texas women who were forced to wait in emergency room parking lots until they went into sepsis.

I mean, we've seen women banned from using public highways to travel out of state to get an abortion.

I mean, that's what they were just trying to do in Lubbock was prevent women from using public highways.

Right.

Yes.

It's interesting you bring up miscarriages because, you know, if I'm, again, trying to take people at their word, trying to assume the best intentions and hear a good faith argument on the other side of this, if my concern is with the life of an embryo or the life of a fetus,

The greatest threat to that life is a miscarriage.

I mean, if your concern is how many embryos or fetuses we're losing, the number that we lose to miscarriage versus the number we lose to abortion, I mean, it's dwarfed.

And so I'm always interested why the pro-life movement is not more interested in figuring out how we prevent more miscarriages.

Because again, if your concern is that embryonic life seems like finding ways to prevent miscarriage, which we have best practices that can do it, right?

Making sure people are covered by health insurance once their pregnancy starts.

I mean, that is a huge opportunity to prevent miscarriages.

You're not gonna prevent all of them, but there are things we could do

To stop it.

And so the fact that all the attention is on abortion, rather than on some of these other things that maybe we could all agree on, to me, again, it makes me suspicious about the true motives of some of these politicians and some of these activists who are pushing some of these bans.

Because it doesn't seem like it's about children.

It doesn't seem like it's about mothers and women and girls.

It does seem like it's about control.

And I think that's what we see across this Christian nationalist movement is controlling what you do with your own body, controlling what you read, controlling what you learn, controlling where you travel.

I mean, this is religion at its worst, is trying to control people and what they do.