Menu
Sign In Search Podcasts Charts People & Topics Add Podcast API Blog Pricing

James Talarico

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2691 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Ezra Klein Show
Can James Talarico Reclaim Christianity for the Left?

that came together during the New Deal era, during the Great Society era, the coalition that came together to pass the Affordable Care Act, we can glimpse the politics of love there because that was about building a big enough coalition to transform the country.

The Ezra Klein Show
Can James Talarico Reclaim Christianity for the Left?

It included people who didn't agree on everything, but it was people who agreed on some of the big things.

The Ezra Klein Show
Can James Talarico Reclaim Christianity for the Left?

And I don't mean to look at history with rose-colored glasses.

The Ezra Klein Show
Can James Talarico Reclaim Christianity for the Left?

There's problems in all these things, but I'm talking about a general thrust, a general direction of what a politics of union would look like over and above a politics of division.

The Ezra Klein Show
Can James Talarico Reclaim Christianity for the Left?

It's not the gospel unless it includes love for our enemies.

The Ezra Klein Show
Can James Talarico Reclaim Christianity for the Left?

And again, as I said earlier, it's the hardest love to fulfill in our lives, but it is absolutely necessary if we're gonna save this American experiment, if we're gonna save the experiment in self-governance all over the world, is can we have a love for those we disagree with?

The Ezra Klein Show
Can James Talarico Reclaim Christianity for the Left?

And I've been able to cultivate that in my life.

The Ezra Klein Show
Can James Talarico Reclaim Christianity for the Left?

Again, not perfectly.

The Ezra Klein Show
Can James Talarico Reclaim Christianity for the Left?

I oftentimes will feel anger or start to feel hate for some of my colleagues in the Texas legislature.

The Ezra Klein Show
Can James Talarico Reclaim Christianity for the Left?

But at my best, I'm able to maintain a bond of love with them, even as we're fighting, even as we're disagreeing, even as we're debating, even as I'm standing up to some of their most extreme policy proposals.

The Ezra Klein Show
Can James Talarico Reclaim Christianity for the Left?

I still see them as my siblings, as an expression of the same love.

The Ezra Klein Show
Can James Talarico Reclaim Christianity for the Left?

And that, to me, is such a fundamental difference from the politics that we have now.

The Ezra Klein Show
Can James Talarico Reclaim Christianity for the Left?

I'll just tell you one quick story.

The Ezra Klein Show
Can James Talarico Reclaim Christianity for the Left?

My colleague James Frank represents Wichita Falls in North Texas.

The Ezra Klein Show
Can James Talarico Reclaim Christianity for the Left?

He's a Freedom Caucus member, the most conservative members of the House.

The Ezra Klein Show
Can James Talarico Reclaim Christianity for the Left?

James and I started a stupid friendship based on that we share the same first name.

The Ezra Klein Show
Can James Talarico Reclaim Christianity for the Left?

And, you know, we joked about it and talked about how we were the James caucus and he was chair, I was vice chair, you know, whatever.

The Ezra Klein Show
Can James Talarico Reclaim Christianity for the Left?

But then that led to us having some more real conversations.

The Ezra Klein Show
Can James Talarico Reclaim Christianity for the Left?

And we started to figure out that he and I are both really dissatisfied with this two-party system.

The Ezra Klein Show
Can James Talarico Reclaim Christianity for the Left?

We are both frustrated by how hard it is to challenge orthodoxies in your own party and the pressure to conform within a political party.