James Viver

Yeah, it definitely stood out in the pie chart of the heat map of who had more game time.

Sky Jerome definitely was in the lead there.

I don't know, Liz, and you'd be able to tell me this, but there was certainly, I think, performative whispers to solicitors, instructing sitting behind the bar table and performative head shakes and laughs and all of this.

from the defence barristers.

They felt performative.

They may not have been, of course.

But there just came a particular moments that felt as though they were.

Nevertheless, when it comes down to the nitty gritty, I just don't think the points, whatever the communication style, what I think or what I don't think, ultimately there's a conviction.

But it seemed to me that whether it was the way that they were delivered or simply the substance of them,

Ultimately, it's really hard to argue against 60 quintillion or whatever the number was to stand there a few minutes later and say, yes, but you can't say it's a match because that's just the semantics of the science.

It is a match.

There's only eight or nine billion people on the planet.

How could it be?

If it's in the quintillions, how could it not be a match?

It's just so, you know, to sort of stand there and say that just, you know, in the real world, no, you just wouldn't.

You know, that just doesn't fly.

And things like, you know, could the dogs have moved the DNA around and just things which when we're talking about reasonable doubt that clearly that was unreasonable doubt.

Yeah, and the thing that struck me about that is we find out about Fricone in the first instance when...

Fabrizio is talking to UCO Danny, you know, the syndicate crime boss.

So if we take Fabrizio's explanation in that scenario that he was the lookout and that he didn't go in and he didn't know anything about this, why not put another person in the house?