Jamie Carragher

What leadership do you want them to be shown that you think will help not just you, but right throughout the leagues?

Yes, it is.

I mean, you call him an icon.

I think he was just one of those players, not just a Leeds legend.

I think he was one of those players when you're growing up yourself and you're ahead of players of the 60s and 70s.

And Norman, back your legs, Hunter was one of those names that sort of just went right around the country.

And even if you'd never seen him play, you knew who he was.

So there's no doubt he was a

Especially playfully, he's a legend.

And obviously this coronavirus and the situation we're in right now, I think when someone from the football family falls foul of that, I mean, I think we really feel it even more.

I think even a week or so, going back to Pep Guardiola's mum as well, we hear all these numbers day in, day out.

But as I said, when it's someone in the industry that you're involved in as well, I think we all feel a little bit more.

No, it was very difficult.

I came up against them, obviously, lots of teams, Merseyside derbies as well, and obviously Manchester United, the two biggest rivals for Liverpool.

But Louis Saha, the movement he did there on Gary Neville, he did that to a lot of players.

I remember him doing that to me in games as well, where I think he was possibly the best in the league, I think, of actually going short and then spinning in behind.

We talk about strikers' movements a lot, and

We should always do the extra run for the defender and one for yourself.

A lot of coaches say that, but very few strikers actually do that.

So, Louis, that was something that you definitely caught me out on a few times.