Jamie Carragher

Oh, yeah, no doubt.

And what I'm saying is, before the game, I liked the team.

I liked the fact Pepe was in there, Chambers at centre-back, Kieran Tierney at left-back, unfortunately looks like he's got another shoulder injury, but...

They're the players they brought in the summer, certainly the two big signers at left-back and right-wing.

And I just felt the first two teams he picked, we need to see them, see what they're like.

Are these players good enough?

Or let's get them used to the Premier League.

And that's why I was delighted with Pepe tonight to score.

As I said, his confidence below, the man who's brought him in, who's trying to get the best out of him has moved on.

Freddie Lundberg, who he probably doesn't know too much about when he's come there.

He's part of the coaching staff.

And it wouldn't have been easy.

But as I said, I think the real Arsenal fans know there's still a lot of work to do.

And that's not just Freddie Lundby, that's whatever manager comes in.

But it's definitely a step in the right direction, certainly results-wise and certainly team-wise.

But I certainly think for that first hour, there's still a lot of worrying aspects.

Well, it's going to be difficult, really.

They were a club who... There's been a lot of clubs at this moment in the Premier League who maybe talk of changing the manager.

Some of them have changed the manager.

I think the result at Chelsea was a huge result.