Jamie Carragher

And you think, you know, Rafa's just mentioned one week in football can change a lot.

But to then lose in the midweek and then lose another home game against an Arsenal team who, yes, are a bigger club than West Ham, but in terms of not at their best, you actually think, this is a great opportunity, really.

You know, Arsenal at home, away records, really poor.

They go 1-0 up and then to almost fall apart and lose 3-1, it's a really bad night for West Ham.

I've said before about changing managers in a season I don't really like it and I think I can only understand clubs who do it when there's the fear of relegation and they take a chance by changing something because there's so much money involved in the Premier League now that's Manuel Pellegrini's big problem they're very close to that relegation zone and the fixture they've got next week

If he's actually in charge for that one, if they lose that one, I mean, that's Southampton, that's massive.

the fans are supporting them and even if they don't have too many fans but they still they are supporting them so i can see the team doing well and i don't think they will be relegated rafa you know the uh you went to a back five at your time at newcastle that was successful and there was talk i think steve bruce maybe earlier in the season went to a back four he's then gone to the back five

Why that system?

Does it really suit the players that are there?

You're saying you got the balance right, we just mentioned about actually Arsenal, so you're talking actually you almost had seven players behind the ball and you left it to the front three.

That got you to the level it got you, that you obviously left in the summer.

What was your idea then to improve that team and maybe take it even further forward if you could have got certain players from the owner?

I was back to being an Everton fan for the day and I was absolutely delighted.

I think we probably all were.

No, but listen, the reason being, before I get into the clip is, Duncan Ferguson's been at that club a long time with different managers and there's always been seeing as he's not really going to get the job.

He's just there to help the manager out.

He actually came in, he changed it, he put a stamp on it.

People say 4-4-2 is back to basics.

Atletico Madrid got to Champions League finals playing 4-4-2.

Every system has its strengths and weaknesses.