Jamie Dodd

But I do wonder if both the maturity of his game and the fact that he doesn't necessarily have that much upside, at least as like a trade asset, kind of allows you to use him in a different way.

Maybe it is the six, seven defenseman.

Right.

And you're not like, oh, man, we can't scratch Kudryavsev.

It's like, well, you probably can't.

Because he's probably a lot closer to a finished product in some ways than these guys.

Maybe you can even use him as like a stabilizer on a pair with Mancini, right?

Or a stabilizer on a pair with Wielander.

Yeah, and cultivating that internal competition, I think especially, I mean, on the blue line, they're almost going to have to by default unless they make some trades.

And you're right.

Look, Mancini, I mean, I don't know that I've seen a lot of progression in his game necessarily.

And what?

He's not that young at this point either, right?

I think he's like 24 or is about to turn 24.

Yeah, he turns 24 in May.

And I would even say, like, is there any trade value left league-wide at this point as, like, a toolsy, probably, shot defenseman?

At the end of the day, man, like...

So six foot three right shot defenseman.

You know what I mean?

Get going up the ice.