Jamie Dodd

He was fantastic.

There's a ton of great... Jalen Chatfield, former Canuck, right?

There's a ton of interesting stories, great stories.

Rod Brindamore, BC native, breaks through and wins as a coach after winning as the captain with the Carolina Hurricanes.

And there's just a lot to... A really fascinating...

Not just this final, not just this playoffs, but the arc of the Rod Brindamore and Eric Tulsky Carolina Hurricanes taken as a whole, which really goes back, what, like eight years at this point?

The guy with the sewing machine, like custom embroidery on the gear and stuff.

is yeah if you were appalling if like five years ago you were power ranking among the big four North American sports like owners that are going to stand in their way of their team ever winning right at the top there I don't know about number one but he would in very high up there probably top five easily top five yeah up there with Jerry Jones and you know a select few others yeah and yeah so you know it's like it's like it was like speed watching the wire

Like that's one of the, that's one of the terms of wins and losses.

Yeah.

That's one of the inherent things.

Rebuild is in the near term.

Your expectations are lower.

Right.

Now, I get what you're saying, though, but there's big picture stuff where you shouldn't lower the expectations as well.

Yeah, that's right.

Like if they'd been able to be... If they'd had any value on the ice.

Oh my gosh.

It would be...

We all know it instinctively, but I think it would surprise even everyone here.