Jamie Hamilton

And yeah, and Cherki has this playful spirit, right?

This unbelievable attitude that seems to almost make him somewhat immune to those diktats, maybe where other players haven't been able to.

So I think that's a really interesting one.

And that's what I'm referring to by, I guess, the importance of Cherki from a symbolic perspective.

I think his humour seems to be part of it, right?

He seems to have a lightness of attitude.

I enjoyed the little playful shove, right, against Guardiola and the final whistle of the Carabao Cup, final blue.

And, yeah, it doesn't seem to affect him in maybe the same way as Jonathan was talking about with Grealish, and I agree with that.

Grealish seems almost troubled, right, by the criticism and the constant instructions, where Schalke just seems to have a more, you know,

I guess, playful attitude to the whole thing, right?

And, you know, he sees Guardiola sure as someone that he can learn a lot from.

And I'm sure he has learned a lot from Guardiola.

But at the same time, you read the quote there from the France football interview that, you know, Guardiola's tough on me, but I'm tough on him too.

And I think it's important, yeah, to try and emphasise the two-way nature of this relationship, because I think there is sometimes a tendency to drift into the sort of, well, what an incredible job Guardiola's always doing.

He's, you know, what, taught Cherokee sophisticated football or something like that.

And that gets kind of trotted out at times with players that Guardiola's bought and integrated into the City team.

Yeah, there's this...

this lightness of touch with Turkey.

And also, you know, a few weeks ago, City were, I don't know, nine points, 12 points behind Arsenal and out of the Champions League.

And I actually, you know, think that at times through the season, Guardiola