Jamie Kern Lima

Yeah.

Yeah.

Can you share with everyone, Esther, and how Karen came through? I get so many messages and DMs from people saying, you know, what about a plant medicine journey? What about this? What about like just all these? And I think what I've learned.

Can you share with everyone, Esther, and how Karen came through? I get so many messages and DMs from people saying, you know, what about a plant medicine journey? What about this? What about like just all these? And I think what I've learned.

I knew this already, but I know this even more powerfully through doing this show, is that I feel like when each of us share our stories, that it helps everyone feel less alone and more enough. And they just kind of, I think, revel in that. I think we need that now more than ever, that connection. But for you, can you talk about, through the story of Esther, how this all started?

I knew this already, but I know this even more powerfully through doing this show, is that I feel like when each of us share our stories, that it helps everyone feel less alone and more enough. And they just kind of, I think, revel in that. I think we need that now more than ever, that connection. But for you, can you talk about, through the story of Esther, how this all started?

Because there are going to be people at home going, wait, can I get Esther's number? Like, what do I do?

Because there are going to be people at home going, wait, can I get Esther's number? Like, what do I do?

Will you explain what you mean by that?

Will you explain what you mean by that?

What did that feel like when she said that? And did you believe her?

What did that feel like when she said that? And did you believe her?

right there when you talk about you know all of these people that have passed or that are living that are in your life and you're in like a dark room and you're hearing all the voices um is that when you write only no no that was just uh that was a meditative moment that was just i wrote about it a couple days later wow yeah it just it was just logged yeah yeah filed away

right there when you talk about you know all of these people that have passed or that are living that are in your life and you're in like a dark room and you're hearing all the voices um is that when you write only no no that was just uh that was a meditative moment that was just i wrote about it a couple days later wow yeah it just it was just logged yeah yeah filed away

And was it just like you were in meditation or prayer?

And was it just like you were in meditation or prayer?

Yeah. Like you said earlier, when you open yourself to them.

Yeah. Like you said earlier, when you open yourself to them.

Right? Yeah. It's so interesting, Kelsey. In my life, I believe our life is divinely orchestrated. I think we have choice. I think all of that. I find that when I talk about my faith or talk openly on the show, for example, about my faith, what's so tricky is that... Everyone's at different places of faith in their life. So some people write in and say, they're mad I'm talking about God.

Right? Yeah. It's so interesting, Kelsey. In my life, I believe our life is divinely orchestrated. I think we have choice. I think all of that. I find that when I talk about my faith or talk openly on the show, for example, about my faith, what's so tricky is that... Everyone's at different places of faith in their life. So some people write in and say, they're mad I'm talking about God.